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Offline übermetroid

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What is the ship in game limit?
on: September 15, 2004, 10:19:31 pm
What is the ship in game limit with SCP?

And can it be made bigger?
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Offline Corhellion

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #1 on: September 16, 2004, 05:13:38 am
...lim...it?

...*points to search button*

There are no 'limits' anymore...so...you can have as many in game as you want...atleast I think that's what those coders did...
 

Offline Omniscaper

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Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 07:43:06 am
As much as your CPU can handle I guess. Heres the most I had...

http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1706

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Offline Singh

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #3 on: September 16, 2004, 08:01:24 am
I Currently have close to 60 in the mission im working on. Half are capitals of various classes.

and I intend to add more :drevil:
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 08:02:44 am
2700 Subsystems IIRC, more would crash the game... At least that's what is written on FSDoc...
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #5 on: September 16, 2004, 10:19:05 am
At one point, especially with a lot of asteroids and plenty of fire flying, primary weapons start loosing collision detection, they won't work anymore.
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Offline Mr_Maniac

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #6 on: September 16, 2004, 02:17:23 pm
Wow!
Today I made a mission with !!95!! Ships!

15 Fighter Wings (4 Fighters in a Wing)
6 Bomber Wings (4 Bombers in a Wing)
1 x Colossus
2 x Orion
4 x Deimos
4 x Macross (table-modded by me ;) )
 

Offline Omniscaper

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Reply #7 on: September 16, 2004, 06:06:38 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
At one point, especially with a lot of asteroids and plenty of fire flying, primary weapons start loosing collision detection, they won't work anymore.


So thats why that Trek battle was all wierd. I turned off invulnerability to see who would win that battle, but ships just kept shooting through each other.

SCP dudes, any way around this issue? As graphics cards and computers get beefier, 50 ships in a battle will eventually be common place.
 

Offline StratComm

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Reply #8 on: September 16, 2004, 06:20:08 pm
It's been discussed before, with I forget what conclusion.  The trouble is that the collision calculations grow exponentially as the number of objects increases, and there is a hard limit set as to how many collision checks the game will do so that it does not become completely unplayable.
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #9 on: September 16, 2004, 06:21:28 pm
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Originally posted by Omniscaper


So thats why that Trek battle was all wierd. I turned off invulnerability to see who would win that battle, but ships just kept shooting through each other.

SCP dudes, any way around this issue? As graphics cards and computers get beefier, 50 ships in a battle will eventually be common place.



That might explain what was happening in a mission in Boomerang. Kept shooting through the damn Nephilims.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #10 on: September 16, 2004, 06:24:25 pm
I've had around 60 or so before retail FS2 would simply crash when you tried to load the mission.
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Offline Blitzerland

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Reply #11 on: September 16, 2004, 06:43:16 pm
On mission 13 of my Legacy campaign, there is close to eighty.

Nearly three full squadrens of fighters and bombers (2 of fighters, 1 of bombers) slugging it out, plus an Orion and the Colossus.
 

Offline Svizel

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #12 on: September 17, 2004, 02:23:30 am
Hmm well... it seems none of you really hit the old FRED ship limit...  It used to be 99 (or 100?) ships which wasn't really that hard to hit in multiplayer missions... (same as sexp limit and in fact all limits :)) You need a lot of ships events and interaction to keep 8 players busy at same time. :)

Wonder if anyone did anything with it... I made a multiplayer race mission similar to Trails of light from TBP, just a bit different cause you have to keep 2 trails for 2 pilots. I was really limited by those 99 ships. 2 for pilot ships, about 5 for some very basical enviroment around, 10 for interactive obstacles on track and that leaves 82 objects... cut in half it means 41 nav points for each pilot which is realy low number :( If anyone really raised that limit i wouldnt mind reworking it... :)
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Offline QuantumDelta

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #13 on: September 17, 2004, 11:50:23 am
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Originally posted by Svizel
Hmm well... it seems none of you really hit the old FRED ship limit...  It used to be 99 (or 100?) ships which wasn't really that hard to hit in multiplayer missions... (same as sexp limit and in fact all limits :)) You need a lot of ships events and interaction to keep 8 players busy at same time. :)

Wonder if anyone did anything with it... I made a multiplayer race mission similar to Trails of light from TBP, just a bit different cause you have to keep 2 trails for 2 pilots. I was really limited by those 99 ships. 2 for pilot ships, about 5 for some very basical enviroment around, 10 for interactive obstacles on track and that leaves 82 objects... cut in half it means 41 nav points for each pilot which is realy low number :( If anyone really raised that limit i wouldnt mind reworking it... :)


When they raise that limit, could you get the FZ Team to make some missions like TDIC for MenBD?

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Offline Svizel

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Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 12:56:52 pm
Umm... well.. one stupid question... What is "MenDB"?
Btw we managed to reduce the number of pilots required to win TDIC on 3, try that if you need yourself kept busy :) And if this is not enough, try to win medal in Red & Black Allover, also Checkmate medal is quite a challange ;)
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Offline Singh

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Reply #15 on: September 17, 2004, 05:04:31 pm
Well, I just tested it and managed to get 109 ships into my mission. Nearly 16 wings of bombers, 19 GTVA caps, 15 Shivan caps and a bunch of waypoints - go figure! :)
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Offline QuantumDelta

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Reply #16 on: September 19, 2004, 07:10:03 am
Quote
Originally posted by Svizel
Umm... well.. one stupid question... What is "MenDB"?
Btw we managed to reduce the number of pilots required to win TDIC on 3, try that if you need yourself kept busy :) And if this is not enough, try to win medal in Red & Black Allover, also Checkmate medal is quite a challange ;)


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I don't remember R&D Allover/check mate - i'll have a look at them sometime.
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Offline übermetroid

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #17 on: September 19, 2004, 08:29:59 pm
So whats the max ships in game that anyone has goten with SCP?
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Offline IceFire

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What is the ship in game limit?
Reply #18 on: September 19, 2004, 10:04:44 pm
Question: How does it count by?

Total ships present and active in the mission?  Total ships out of all ships both present, yet to arrive, already departed?  All ships plus all ships in respawning wings?
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Offline übermetroid

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Reply #19 on: September 19, 2004, 11:31:50 pm
Total ships present and active in the mission?  :D
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