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True words Aldo.

Can't remember who wrote it, but I seem to recall he was Scottish too :)

It's a pity you don't have something like Speakers Corner in the US Kazan, though I don't doubt if such a thing did exist it would have been deemed either illegal or terrorist by now ;)

 

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True words Aldo.

Can't remember who wrote it, but I seem to recall he was Scottish too :)


Rudyard Kipling (born in India, actually)

  

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Ah right! My mistake :)

Theres a wonderful quote in Prestwick Airport from Robert Burns. The language takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, you realise what an inspired poet he was :)

 

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You realize the worst part of all this?


Hillary Clinton will win the next election.
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"Speakers Corner"?
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In Covent Garden in London, there is a spot where people can stand and give their opinions on anything from World Politics to the 2000 Grand Prix. If people passing want to debate the issue, they are quite free to. It's the scene of some really interesting, and sometimes heated debates, but is, at least in my eyes, a true definition of Freedom of Speech. You cannot be arrested for Slander etc whilst at speakers corner, though, you can be arrested for inciting a riot if you get too carried away ;)

 

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Cool stuff that one...
Too bad that without media attention no one is going to care...
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we're suppose to have the freedom of speech _everywhere_ that is public land


but a spot for people to meet and debate in every major citty would be pretty cool
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Kaz, why don't you set up an internet radio to show your ideas?
With a little effort it may bacome something constructive.
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In Covent Garden in London, there is a spot where people can stand and give their opinions on anything from World Politics to the 2000 Grand Prix. If people passing want to debate the issue, they are quite free to. It's the scene of some really interesting, and sometimes heated debates, but is, at least in my eyes, a true definition of Freedom of Speech. You cannot be arrested for Slander etc whilst at speakers corner, though, you can be arrested for inciting a riot if you get too carried away ;)


IIRc you can be arrested for slandering the Queen, though.  I think that's more of a holdover from the last few centuries than an enforced rule.

I've never been there, but the nice thing is not so much the ability to speak, but the fact that people know they can go there are listen.  I don't think there's any other equivalent in the Uk, though.... I've seen the odd dmeonstration (mostly over Iraq) in Glasgow, but there's not a dedicated permanent speaking bit.

Possibly the internet will take over that role over time... after all, it has here.

 

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[q]not a dedicated permanent speaking bit.[/q]

You think either Jack McConnel or the City Council would let that happen? :lol:
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Zarax: that's an interesting idea.. but i don't have the time or the bandwidth for it
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You can always pre-record some stuff in a streaming format and place it on some free webspace...
Just my two .02€
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i don't need free space - i have a 1and1 account :D
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Seen it. I just wasn't going to type that all in for the benifit of those who hadn't seen it :D

You'll note that I said that there were no links between Bin Laden (the man) and Saddam rather than mentioning Al-Queda at all.

Rictor I was about to reccomend you in particular hunted down a copy of that show cause I knew you'd enjoy it :)


Also, read a book called "Al-Queda" by Jason Burke
 
It covers absolutely everything to do with militant Islam, it's very dry but absolutely eye opening.
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we're suppose to have the freedom of speech _everywhere_ that is public land
 


Does the term "Free speech zones" ring a bell?

It USED to be that you had freedom of speech. You've been without it for quite a while.
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Also, read a book called "Al-Queda" by Jason Burke


Unless I'm much mistaken he was one of the talking heads on the BBC2 program.
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