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Offline wolfdog

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The Herc is an assault fighter, not a dogfighter...


then why does a really great deal (about 40% i think..) of the multiplayer pilots use the Herc II.....???

Oh, well.. guess this is useless:p  IMO the Herc II is better, for both single and multiplayer....
You Think not,, and Maybe the majority thinks not.. it's not important I guess...???

 

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Offline NGTM-1R

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The Aeolus was being constructed by n00bs at the large-ship building business, too. To be honest, I think the GTVA didn't really give it enough of a chance. 24 ships is probably one or two production runs. As RNI Shipyards got the hang of building cruiser-sized ships, the costs and build time would probably decrease.

However, one wonders if, now that they've seen what ithe Aeolus can do in action, the GTVA will order some more of them. And the cost may not be such a bad thing, after Capella, since it would be pumping money into the economy.
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the true incarnation of the herc 1 in fs2 is the aries it is a true heavy fighter the herc 2 is more of a medium fighter. and personally i think the orion is better than the hecate, hecates always get hammered by other cap ships they seemed a waste of money in the designing and production of new destroyers when they could completly upgrade the orion.

 

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The Aeolus was being constructed by n00bs at the large-ship building business, too. To be honest, I think the GTVA didn't really give it enough of a chance. 24 ships is probably one or two production runs. As RNI Shipyards got the hang of building cruiser-sized ships, the costs and build time would probably decrease.
I doubt that tech description is accurate.  We saw about 20 different Aeoluses in FS2, and half of those got destroyed.  That's in the space of one month.  Maybe Command just liked the Aeolus so much they decided to keep the rest of them a secret. ;)
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Goob, it's an open meaning...
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Offline Cabbie

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As for the Herc II I agree it is one of the more underrated FS ships but by the very fact that is it used a lot in Multi player (and recommened by multi player experts to noobs) shows that it is very versitle craft.

 

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First of all, "gustibus" is ablative. :p

I think a more liberal translation might be, "There is no accounting for taste." :)

 
I'm not sure where to post this so I'll post it here as it has to do with this post and it's "couterpart" with the same title:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,27646.0.html

It was metioned that the authour of this post logged in from a public computer.

When I registered I did so from my own computer at home only a short time before this post, and unless I'm much ,mistaken we don't even live in the same country.
And I have ONLY logged into this site from my computer at home.

I'm bringing this up because I have never experienced anything like this before, and are curious to know how it happend.
I'm not blaming anyone, I just don't belive this kind of thing should happen and I'd like to bring this to the attention of the admin in case there was a "hiccup" in the system.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Off the top of my head, here's all the Aeolus cruisers I remember from FS2 and their fates. I'll try and correct this in a bit, after I play some of the missons again...

"?" means that the cruiser's fate is unknown. This is for ships you only seen once that don't get blown up, or for ships who can survive a mission but don't always do so.

GTC Vigilant: Destroyed
GTC Warwick: ?
GTC Agrippa: ?
GTC Stalwart: ?
GTC Templar: ?
GTC Malta: ?
GTC Erintax: ?
NTC Rapier: Destroyed
NTC Loyola: Destroyed
NTC Mylae: Destroyed
NTC Hellespont: Destroyed
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just have an admin compare the IP's...
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When I registered I did so from my own computer at home only a short time before this post, and unless I'm much ,mistaken we don't even live in the same country.
And I have ONLY logged into this site from my computer at home.
 


First things first, change your passwords. Immediately.

Then we'll look into what happened, here. How the hell AlphaOne could have done that is beyond me. more likely a server hiccup as you say.
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NTC Saharan: Destroyed
NTC Epigoni: ?
NTC Liberty: ?
I don't think we can know for certain if the NTC Rapier was an Aeolus, as it was only seen/mentioned in a debriefing.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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True...so scratching that off the list, that gives us...

13 Aeolus cruisers. Of which 5 were destroyed.
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Offline AlphaOne

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Well I have no idea how the whole login thing happened.I just clicked on the post topic icon and there I was posting a reply without even loging in and stuff,but I dident pay any atention to it I thought that maibe you dont need to login in order to post.
And by the way I'm from romania so no i dont think were from the same country.
Returning to the topic I believe the Hecate is a very good comand and control vesel because it has good armour/armaments/fighter-bommber capacity. And as long as it doesnt get flanked it is very good against other capital ships. I was a bit surprised when in FS2 you have to protect the Aquitane because it was incapacitated by a shivan corvette I thought enything that small wouldnt last more then 30 seconds against a Hecate but it apears I was wrong.
On the other hand the Orion has its weakpoints also. Not having adequate AAAF defence sistems but it is mi ferm beliefe that a Hecate would be toasted by an orion if it ever went head to head(the Orion being more heavely armed).

A solution would be to improve on the Orion by cuting down its fighter/bommber bay to acomodate something like 100 spacecraft(that is if the Orion can cary as much as the Hecate about 150) and the spare room beeing used to pack more generators for aditional AAAF defence sistems. And I believe that if the GTVA would try and improve on the beam cannon technology to make them more compact more energy eficient without decreasing theyr damage I believe that the Orion would walk over enything out there of equal size even a Rackshasa destroyer.
As for the Hecate the same idea downsize its fighter/bommber bay to make room for some more beam cannons maybe 2 BG.

P.S. They retired the Mig29 Sniper (romanian version with imroved electronics and weapons sistem) what a shame it was a beutiful aircraft.
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Offline Kie99

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THe Orion rocks the Hecate in head 2 head combat (no fighters involved and according to #Battletest (which is available from the missions page in HLP's downloads section)) but in a bombing run i'd rather attack an Orion than a Hecate.
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Offline Kosh

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The Hecate is still a serious threat to almost any capital ship that gets in front of it because of that BGreen.


The only reason that Shivan Corvette in Argonautica lasts longer than 30 seconds is because the BGreen's recharge time is longer than that.
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And I believe that if the GTVA would try and improve on the beam cannon technology to make them more compact more energy eficient without decreasing theyr damage I believe that the Orion would walk over enything out there of equal size even a Rackshasa destroyer.


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Offline Liberator

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It's less about Energy Efficency than it is decreasing the fire rate.  It takes their cannons 20-30 seconds to recycle, the shivan stuff(aside from the SRed) 5-10.  It probably has something to do with their connection to subspace.  Terran/Vasudan don't have a good way of disposing of the generated heat fast, the Shivans probably just dump into subspace.  Also, being Techno-Organic, they probably have a higher tolerance for radiation in general so they don't have to shield their cannons as heavily as T/V.
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