[.::Tin Can::.]

Lets work out something here: since everyone thinks US's government sucks (some more worse than others, some think it might be good) then lets take all the European's, Asians, and so on and so fourth come fourth to decide on what the perfect form of government would be, whether it be self-government, or a government on elected (or put into place) officials. We'll let them decide.

[Bobboau]

I think we (and euorpe) are pretty close, just need to make a few adgustments

[an0n]

Dictatorship.

But the Dictator is required to walk through a public park once a month unguarded. If the people are happy with him, they form their own security detail. If they hate him, he's ****ed.

[.::Tin Can::.]

I think we (and euorpe) are pretty close, just need to make a few adgustments

Name them, all mighty Quan.

[Corsair]

*waves flag*
LIEK, AMERICA ALL TEH WAY!!!111ONEONE

[Rictor]

anarchism, which is the ultimate form of self-determination. Essentially, its shrink the size of a nation down until every individual is a nation.

No government, except by free association. This basically means that you are free to do whatever you want so long as you don't infringe upon someone else's freedom, and when stuff needs to get done in an organized fashion (that is, in groups) the "government" rules only with people's direct permission, and anyone who does not agree is free to leave the group, and thereby the jurisdiction of the "government" and go do their own thing.

The problem with this is, taken literally, any unwanted influence by another person could be seen as an infringement of your rights, which in theory means we'de all have to live on seperate planets. However, thats where the free association bit comes in, since people would be free to accept that living together is an integral part of being human, and thus would accept the small but inevitable bits of influence that come with living together.

For you righties: go far enough to the right, shrink the government's role down enough, and you get anarchism.

[Nuke]

i dont care what kind of government we have, so long as its leagal for me to kill people that piss me off.

[Setekh]

Benevolent dictatorship.

[.::Tin Can::.]

I think this has become a thread of sarcasm, and less seriousness...

[Setekh]

I meant it, actually.

[phreak]

i dont care as long as they let me abort people.

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Lets work out something here: since everyone thinks US's government sucks (some more worse than others, some think it might be good) then lets take all the European's, Asians, and so on and so fourth come fourth to decide on what the perfect form of government would be, whether it be self-government, or a government on elected (or put into place) officials. We'll let them decide.

Well lets see...

1. It took the Europeans hundreds of years and 2 world wars to settle its own beef within itself... only now to be a Union....

2. The US, being as powerful as its been for the past century, once to be on the forefront of culture before the 2 world wars, have become more self indulgent in its own "archaic" way of thinking. And by that i mean how the government approches issues nowadays (and strongfully denies any errors even when they are 100% wrong)....

3. China for example was 5 kingdoms (or sumthin like that) before one kingdom got off its ass, and started taking everything over to unify the nation by force.... (might need revising here)

Everywhere else... meh europeans dont fugged up... and now they are "finally ok" with things lol...

So. does anyone still think our way sucks? maybe, but the rest aint any better!

[Rictor]

Setekh: what good is peace and prosperity when you have no freedom? It may not hold true for everyone, but I would rather have freedom, if I had to choose.

Of course, the best system is one where people are both free and peaceful.

[Rictor]

Here's one of the best examples of the "European system"
http://www.swissworld.org/dvd_rom/eng/direct_democracy_2004/content/politsystem/politsystem.html

and a wonderful Flash presentation to boot. Those Swiss really are born and bred designers.

[NGTM-1R]

Constitutional Monarchy.

The power and decision-making capablities of a monarchy, the rights of a republic.

[mrfun]

I vote for  Klingon style political system.

[übermetroid]

Originally posted by Setekh
Benevolent dictatorship.

I am going to have to agree here.  Someone who wants to make sure everybody is happy, and does not have an hidden agenda.

[.::Tin Can::.]

Im for dumping him into a crowd of people unguarded every month...

[Ford Prefect]

A perfect government requires perfect circumstances. It requires that people lose their belief in possibility, in the world that does not exist but might. In short, it requires that we modify the human brain.

Otherwise, all governments are prone to the same corrosive forces.

[IceFire]

Where to find such a person.  Even a person who generally ascribes to  the notions of helping others, protecting the enviroment, and attempting to maintain harmony is going to be corrupted by that sort of power of leadership.

There is no perfect form of government.  All of them are flawed because humans are flawed...thats what gives us our strength as well.  As a whole, we're a fairly efficient organism at doing what we do.  There's lots of variety and variation in people...the best sort of government you can have is largely a democracy.

You can have better and worse democracies.

I see the American system and I see the Canadian system and I see what I like in both systems and in European examples as well (although I know less of them).  I think you need to find a balance between personal freedom and public good.  Its a tough one...but make that part of your mandate as a nation.  This is a doozie guys!