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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN NOV 07, 2004 19:02:37 ET XXXXX

BUSH CONSIDERS CLARENCE THOMAS FOR CHIEF JUSTICE

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President Bush has launched an internal review of the pros and cons of nominating Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as the chief justice if ailing William Rehnquist retires, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

A top White House source familiar with Bush's thinking explains the review of Thomas as chief justice is one of several options currently under serious consideration. But Thomas is Bush's personal favorite to take the position, the source claims.

"It would not only be historic, to nominate a minority as chief justice, symbolizing the president's strong belief in hope and optimism, but it would be a sound judicial move.... Justice Thomas simply has an extraordinary record."

One concern is the amount of political capital Bush would have to spend in congress to make the move.

A chief justice must be separately nominated by Bush and confirmed by the Senate, even if the person is already sitting on the court.

The need to replace Rehnquist could arise by year's end, Bush aides now believe.

Officially, Bush advisers call any Supreme Court vacancy talk premature.

Developing...

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As always, America: the Book provides insightful answers that can not only be quoted at a moment's notice, but are pretty damn funny as well.

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Classroom Activities
Using felt and yarn, make a hand-puppet of Clarence Thomas
Tada! You're Antonin Scalia.
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Offline Liberator

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And this is bad how?

Clarence Thomas is the youngest judge on the panel at 54(IIRC), the rest are in their 70s.  The next President is going to get to appoint a bunch of Supreme Court Justices if Bush doesn't.
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-meh-
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"It would not only be historic, to nominate a minority as chief justice, symbolizing the president's strong belief in hope and optimism, but it would be a sound judicial move.... Justice Thomas simply has an extraordinary record."


So... he likes blacks but hates gays?  Isn't that a little.... what's the word I'm looking for?
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Offline Knight Templar

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Ironic? Moronic?

Perhaps he knows that there are an assload of black fundies as well as whites, but not so many gay ones?
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Originally posted by Liberator
The next President is going to get to appoint a bunch of Supreme Court Justices if Bush doesn't.

Yes, and I would rather that it were the next president.
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Offline Liberator

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Being gay is NOT a racial characteristic.  Being black is.

Get a new line.:doubt:
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Oh right, I forgot. Being gay is something guys do to spite God.
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Ahh. I remember now... Being gay is a choice... Just like it's a choice to be white... male... ~6 foot tall... ~180 lbs...

I can go on...
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Offline redmenace

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AND HERE WE GO....AGAIN

Can we lock this before it gets insane.
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It won't get insane. I have yet to resort to name calling or personal attacks. And I don't intend to begin now.

Besides, aside from how I disagree completely with his opinions on some issues, and may even consider some ideas 'bigotted', I have nothing against Lib.
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Offline redmenace

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I wasn't saying that you would necessarily. But in general I would expect this thread to go insane.

About Clerence Thomas.
I personally, have reservations about his appointment primarily because someone accused him of sexual harasment. An Cheif Justice should be beyond reproach.
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Offline Liberator

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You forget he was exhonerated in an example of Dems being obvious partisans, his only defenders were Republican.  

No man if above reproach, any yahoo can make up spurrious charges and tarnish their reputation.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline redmenace

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Originally posted by Liberator
You forget he was exhonerated in an example of Dems being obvious partisans, his only defenders were Republican.  

No man if above reproach, any yahoo can make up spurrious charges and tarnish their reputation.


Regaurdless of whether or not democrats were being partisan or not; it still cast doubt on him.
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Offline aldo_14

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I don't think any politician should appoint the judiciary, myself.  I presume the exact situation is slightly different in the US, but you just have to look at the Hutton enquiry to see the problems it causes in the UK.

NB: Lib, to an outside observer it's pretty obvious that both Democrats and Republicans are partisan.  They are politicians, after all.

 
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Electing local/regional/state judges might be possible - but for the supreme court there'd be far too much apathy for it to be remotely representative. And even if you could do this it'd still be open to accusations of electoral corruption.

As for this guy a single unproven accusation should be no barrier to his career. If there were multiple dropped cases against him I'd think differently.

 

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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Electing local/regional/state judges might be possible - but for the supreme court there'd be far too much apathy for it to be remotely representative. And even if you could do this it'd still be open to accusations of electoral corruption.

As for this guy a single unproven accusation should be no barrier to his career. If there were multiple dropped cases against him I'd think differently.


Why not have the lower judges elect them?  If you can establish a system where the judiciary is properly independent, then this should be fine.

Technically, you don't really want any form of public election for judges, do you?  Because there's the possibility of bias, etc creeping in.  You'd probably have to, at least at the lower tiers, though, because they don;t just pop out of nowhere.

 

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Originally posted by aldo_14
Why not have the lower judges elect them?  If you can establish a system where the judiciary is properly independent, then this should be fine.


Because that's a recipe for Judicial Tyranny.  I don't know how it is in Britain, but we're just this side of Judges making law, which is a big no-no.  We have to maintain some form of control over them.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Liberator


Because that's a recipe for Judicial Tyranny.  I don't know how it is in Britain, but we're just this side of Judges making law, which is a big no-no.  We have to maintain some form of control over them.


But political control allows for political tyranny through manipulation of the judges.  Whereas the interpretation of the law should surely be independent of politics.