[Grey Wolf]

My response to the RIAA, in the immortal words of Kruschev, "We will bury you."

[Rictor]

well, you have to take take into account the piles of money that these "artists" demand. Avril Lavigne deserves 5 million for spending a few days in a recording studio. Will Smith deserves 20 million for spending 2 months on set (with of course the normal luxuries).

and so on.

[Flipside]

Yes, but the ones recieving that amount of money are a tiny percentage at the current 'peak' of the recording industry. For every overpaid waste of space, theres 100 good bands getting a pittance.

I suppose one cure would be not to increase pay at the bottom, but severely reduce it at the top, that way at least people would be inspired to continue making an effort when they get there

[demon442]

...the American Conservative Union...

That one took me by complete surprise.  Seems the biggest whores in government are tired of jumpping into bed with the big money-makers in industry.  I hope this trend continues, the US government might just save itself.< /wishful thinking >

[.::Tin Can::.]

Wishful I'm sure...

...but not impossible.

[IceFire]

I still think you guys need to get your heads on straight and just tax recordable media.  You pay upto $35 on the purchase of an iPod and somewhere around 50 cents for the purchase of recordable media (CD's and such - total cost for a single CD-R is still 99 cents or so and about 1.99-2.99 for a DVD-R) and the money goes to the recording industry.

Even then, some people got mad...because they weren't downloading music and felt they shouldn't have to pay for it, hey its not a perfect solution but everyone has forgotten about it since then and its still in place.  Seems to be working.

[Rictor]

Where are you buying your stuff Ice? You can get a 50 pack of CD-Rs for less than $20, and around $30 for DVD-Rs.

[Grey Wolf]

If you buy store brand on sale, you can pull off a 50 CD-R spindle for $12.

[Zarax]

Originally posted by IceFire
I still think you guys need to get your heads on straight and just tax recordable media.  You pay upto $35 on the purchase of an iPod and somewhere around 50 cents for the purchase of recordable media (CD's and such - total cost for a single CD-R is still 99 cents or so and about 1.99-2.99 for a DVD-R) and the money goes to the recording industry.

Even then, some people got mad...because they weren't downloading music and felt they shouldn't have to pay for it, hey its not a perfect solution but everyone has forgotten about it since then and its still in place.  Seems to be working.

Ironically here they taxed the media AND put more severe laws against piracy...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Flipside

I suppose one cure would be not to increase pay at the bottom, but severely reduce it at the top, that way at least people would be inspired to continue making an effort when they get there

You could achieve that simply by requiring a musical aptitude test for any artist before they can release an album.... that'd thin out the talentless marketing-gimp pop crowd pretty soon.

[Zarax]

No, it's simpler....
You can just teach ethics to the marketing heads...
Oh, wait this is an uthopistic thing...

[aldo_14]

Wow.  I've never seen 'ethics' and 'marketing' in the same sentence without 'complete lack of' as well.

[Flipside]

Originally posted by aldo_14


You could achieve that simply by requiring a musical aptitude test for any artist before they can release an album.... that'd thin out the talentless marketing-gimp pop crowd pretty soon.

Having seen parts of Pop Idol I think that depends very very much on the test and who is marking it

[aldo_14]

Well, obviously the first step would be hang, draw and quarter Waterman, Cowell and co.  But that's a given, anyways.

[Bobboau]

I believe I speak for everyone present when I say
the RIAA can kiss the fattest part of my ass!

[Janos]

I have actually bought ~300% more records since I began piracing stuff, and most of them are small or not-so-well-known bands. I buy an album if it's so good I want to listen to it, really.

Too bad it's pretty difficult to find Venetian Snares round here.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by IceFire
I still think you guys need to get your heads on straight and just tax recordable media.  

F**k that. Why should RIAA get my money to pay their troughing executives and overpaid media whores when I mostly by blank media to backup por^H^H^H^H data.

[vyper]

On the subject of media costs, basic CD replication (yes, replication including the cost of the disc) can be 17p per disc sometimes lower. Hell, in bulk volume like most labels would order, it's rediculously lower.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Rictor
Where are you buying your stuff Ice? You can get a 50 pack of CD-Rs for less than $20, and around $30 for DVD-Rs.

He's probably quoting in canadian dollars.

[Rictor]

So am I.