[redmenace]

http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6911883
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1124041declar1.html

[.::Tin Can::.]

Sad...

[NGTM-1R]

...WTH?

[redmenace]

Even from a point of view of academic freedom, this makes no sense.

[MatthewPapa]

Heh, I seem to be un-banned again too.
That must mean Kaz got unbanned as well.

BTW, that article is total bull****. Stupid people. Whats this world coming too? Well they are Californians after all.....

[Bobboau]

go on you idiots make the rest of us look stupid

(I am talking to the people who enacted this moronicy, not those outraged/entertained by it)

[Ford Prefect]

This is really ridiculous. The use of the word "God" in the Declaration of Independence is barely even religious. It's just a metaphorical way to describe the notion that there are certain rights that unify all people. The actual existence of god is hardly relevant to the point of the document.

[Bobboau]

wait a second I've been hearing about this for a while now, but I just now read about it, it seems like the only person saying that these were denied becase they contained the word God is the teacher, corect me if I'm wrong but did the princepal actualy say that they were banned becase of God?

[Carl]

some people really need to be taking lithium. next they'll be banning kids from wearing Nike shoes in school, since Nike was the greek goddess of victory.

[Kazan]

it has more to the do with the supplemental texts that the teacher was using to try and create a false impression that all the founding fathers were christians -- she was even snipping partial quotes out to create that impression


Being that it's a historical document i have no gripe with the fact that it says "God" -- ONCE -- the constitution doesn't say god, at all, and persribes that there must be a seperation of church and state


To the Christians:I decry your religion, etc etc - but I have never, and will never, say that it should be outlawed [in seriousness] - I may despise your view and think you're foolish - but i will defend your right to hold that view ----- if only you extended the same courteousy to everyone else*

* only applicable to those fundamentalist christians who are supporting that fascist in the whitehouse and the agenda of his supporters

[redmenace]

The teacher is being made to remove the passages from the material that contain the word God. At least that is my understanding of the sitch

BTW I should get banned more often
I got some work done for the SCP since I had no distractions

[Bobboau]

that was my impression of it at first but now I'm starting to think there is more to this

[Kazan]

like i said - the declairation is a historical document

quoting  historical figures (in entirety!) is 'historical' -- in history when you quote something and it happens to say 'god' that doesn't constitute government support of god

unless the teacher tries to manipulate it to do so -- which it sounds like this teacher was doing

[Bobboau]

how did you people get banned?

[Kazan]

getting very nasty with each other.. it relation to that paraphrase in my signature

[Bobboau]

heh... I guess the thread was 'perged'

anyway, I will withhold judgement untill I see these "supplemental handouts"

[Sandwich]

Re: Thread topic:

Oh God.


....oops.

[Kazan]

lol

bobboau: it wasn't

[karajorma]

Basically this is a case of either blatant stupidity on the part of the principle or a teacher who attempted to proselytize in school trying to hide it by falsifying claims of the above.

I consider both possibilities about equally likely considering the stupidity of some people.

[vyper]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Re: Thread topic:

Oh God.


....oops.

You called?