[Trivial Psychic]

Originally posted by karajorma
Fair enough. Thanks for checking things up for me Although I did actually mention a method to get 12 fighters in a single wing on another thread recently. It's a little hackish but it works

Maybe, but we don't need 12 fighters in one wing for this mission.  All we need is a wing of 6, called Zeta, with the leader missing, and various levels of dammage to some of the present fighters.  I'd also suggest that we could cheat a bit and just make them Zetas 2 through 6 (...again, Zeta 1 is missing) and not concern ourselves with the fact that Keffer ordered 1 through 5 to attack.  I think we can just ingnore that fact, and say that he ordered Zetas 7 through 12 to attack the Centauri.  Those fighters stayed in B5 space, while 1 through 6 stayed with the G'Tok.

[Azrael15]

Hmm, not sure which TBP mission to build, maybe the one with Drazi in it.

The G'Tok's captain was Na'kal by the way. No h.

[eggnartz]

What's the thinking on fighter availability throughout the C5 campaign?   Are we limited to the number that stayed with the G'Tok or can we have a full 12?   Are replacement units available between missions or do we watch the original 6 fighters dwindle down across the missions.

In some respects this campaign is a guerilla operation centered on the exploits of a single, unsupported capital ship so the availability of replacement units arguably should be limited in some way.  Of course we can always simply state that sufficient fighters for each mission were somehow acquired from various sources each and every time and ignore this.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Azrael15
Hmm, not sure which TBP mission to build, maybe the one with Drazi in it.

The G'Tok's captain was Na'kal by the way. No h.

If you want I can assign you that mission for now and if you find it too hard or uninteresting you can swap to something else

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic

Maybe, but we don't need 12 fighters in one wing for this mission.  All we need is a wing of 6, called Zeta, with the leader missing, and various levels of dammage to some of the present fighters.  I'd also suggest that we could cheat a bit and just make them Zetas 2 through 6 (...again, Zeta 1 is missing) and not concern ourselves with the fact that Keffer ordered 1 through 5 to attack.  I think we can just ingnore that fact, and say that he ordered Zetas 7 through 12 to attack the Centauri.  Those fighters stayed in B5 space, while 1 through 6 stayed with the G'Tok.

I know. I was just pointing out that it is possible

Originally posted by eggnartz
What's the thinking on fighter availability throughout the C5 campaign?   Are we limited to the number that stayed with the G'Tok or can we have a full 12?   Are replacement units available between missions or do we watch the original 6 fighters dwindle down across the missions.

In some respects this campaign is a guerilla operation centered on the exploits of a single, unsupported capital ship so the availability of replacement units arguably should be limited in some way.  Of course we can always simply state that sufficient fighters for each mission were somehow acquired from various sources each and every time and ignore this.

Actually your comment raises a point that has been bothering me. I'd assumed that mission 2-9 feature narn pilots flying narn craft.
 I know the starfuries were supposed to escort the Narn a few jumps to be sure they weren't being followed but deserting and joining up with the Narn resistance seems a little too much
With that in mind I think that mission 1 should feature one of the G'Tok's fighters for the player rather than EA craft. It should be fairly easy to explain why we didn't see them in Fall of Night (The G'Tok turned off a lot of it's important subsystems while undergoing repairs near B5 and has only just fixed the launcher bay(s?).


As for dwindling numbers of fighters. It could be done but would be very difficult to pull off properly until the new Team Loadout code Goober is working on is finished. When the G'Tok appears in B5 space it says that it is in a very bad shape. We can simply say that the fighters are in a similarly bad shape and that although they are working hard to repair them they won't have them all ready for some time. Of course the player's habit of bring back ships with only 5% hull left can also be used to explain why the narn fighters seem to be in constant need of repairs

If you guys want to have some persistant wingmen who pop up in several missions feel free to discuss how you want to handle it though.

[eggnartz]

I wasn't particularly familiar with the B5 episode that C5M1 is set in so I presumed that zeta squad was in fact comprised of narn fighters.

The idea of keeping the player in a narn ship - except for the mission where you're flying captured centauri fighter - is a good one.

One way to keep the "feel" of limited resources is of course to limit the number of wings that assist the player as well as to keep any g'tok-based wing understrength.   We can limit missles through the weapons loadout and that further reinforces that.

Another approach is to start missions with damaged fighters.

[karajorma]

That's possible but the AI is pretty good at getting the fighters shot down as it is

[Trivial Psychic]

Regarding M8 (assuming its still the same M8 I sent you), I started thinking about the atmosphere system a little more.  One option, would be to chose a skybox and and no nebula effects, however since Narn was bombed recently, and the atmosphere is likely thick with dust, I feel that a nebular environment, coupled with the groundscape and perhaps a few structures, would work best.  Granted, the atmosphere should be thinner than your average nebula, and sort of dull red in color.  I'd also suggest a red sun.  Is it possible for a textures replacement to be made for the groundscape to be red as well?  It would need to be included in the final VP.

Later!

[Cobra]

OK, guys. Campaign 2 Mission 9 released.

[darkspy]

So what missions are taken/ done?(in campaign 5) I would like to jump in...

Darkspy

[karajorma]

Everything is free apart from Mission 7 last time I checked. When someone gives me a mission number I write that it's been assigned to someone next to the description
Azrael15 may have taken mission 5 though so stay away from that one until I can get a confirmation from him.

Apart from that whatever mission takes your fancy.

[darkspy]

Well, Thanks... I'll take mission 2 (campaign 5)

When I think its done do I send it to you or what next???

Darkspy

[Primus]

Create a thread for your mission Something like this: [FA] Campaign 5 Mission 2 DarkSpy

[karajorma]

As Primus said you'll need yopur own thread with the mission put up for download on your own webspace. If you're really stuck I'll put it up myself but the problem with that is that you'll have to wait for me to notice the e-mail and upload it yourself. Considering the number of free places you can use it's really not worth it

[Cobra]

or, just go to GeoCities.

[Fergus]

Or if your own IP gives you space I would deffinetly try to use that...but alas I have none.

[karajorma]

I just wanted to say I've noticed a large increase in the number of people playtesting each others missions this week.

Very grateful. Keep it up.

[freespacegundam]

Hmm, I'm trying to get a feel for how much of the first campaign is actually done so far.  If memory serves me, all the missions have at least been created, and I have six of the seven already downloaded.  If we're in the final stages and we just need to match up backgrounds and create the campaign file then all the better.  

I mainly ask this because the FA seems to have slowed down recently.

[karajorma]

From what I can see mission 1-7 are in varying stages (most of them are over 80% done in terms of the actually events, debriefs etc.)

What needs doing once all the missions are done is taking the individual missions and turning them into a campaign. At this stage we'll need to go through and give them all a unified set of backgrounds, make all the missions briefs and debriefs sound like they came from the same sources and then spell check everything.

[Fergus]

Sorry, my progress with the other campaign 1 missions has been rather slow lately, I'll try to redouble my efforts...the Fred Academy is the only lagitamite authority in this forum.

[Vainzki]

I'd like to try out C5M1, if possible.