[Kazan]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=5&u=/latimests/20041130/ts_latimes/campusesmaybarmilitaryrecruiters

[Rictor]

Frankly, I don't really care about all the gay and lesbian stuff, but this is great news. The military has no place in schools.

[Ford Prefect]

Yeah, I read about this in the paper. Quite encouraging.

[Liberator]

I'm not okay with this.  The military needs to be able to distribute funds as they need to facilitate recruitment.  If they're not getting recruits from one institution they need to be able to move funds to an institution where they are.

All this is, is an attack on the military.

[Ford Prefect]

The military has no place in institutions of education. You can call that an attack on the military if you want, but many people including me are not comfortable with the military trying to recruit people from college campuses.

[Rictor]

The recruitment techniques are border-line propaganda, and quite often cross that line. Kids are especially impressionable and I for one do not think that they ought to be indoctrinated with jingoist rhetoric any more than they already are.

I guess this all depends on your view of the military.

[Taristin]

To me, Military = bad.  Keep the recruiters out of the schools. kthanx...

[Krackers87]

We have recruiters for the army, navy, marines etc in my public high school all the time.

[Kazan]

liberator look at the basis of the judgement (hint: 1st ammend) and then call it bad

if you do so you PROVE you are a fascist

[redmenace]

Well, I see it as necessary for them to be able to recruit on campuses. Mainly because the military needs a pool of educated officers and the schools and the best source for that. Additionally, students have an right from a common sense POV to know all the options availiable to them, and restricting recruiters because you[universities] don't like their policies is idiotic. Additionally, I am willing to bet they still would let them on campuses even if the military changed their minds about homosexuals.

[Kazan]

in otherwords once again it's Redmenace "i don't give a rats ass about individuals/institutions rights" the fascist in denial

[redmenace]

Honestly that comment isn't worth my time.

But additionally, about the law schools, well educated JAG officers are also a must.

[Kazan]

well redmenace - those schools still have their rights to say "your organization violates our antidescrimination policies and therefore you're not welcome on our property"

SINCE IT IS PRIVATE FREAKING PROPERTY - or is there no such thing as private property anymore if it's "in the interest of national security"

[Rictor]

redmenace: at career fairs and the like, sure. But giving them a permanent presence on campus or allowing them greater rights than any other recruiter is playing favourites and promoting the military above other career choices.

[redmenace]

well fine don't allow them the ability to have offices on campus. probably more efficient for the military in that regaurd to have offices off campus anyway. But they should be allow to come to career fairs and setup a booth where that is permitted. But they should not be shut out.

[an0n]

Finally - those fu[color=23123][/color]cking fags and queers did something good for a change!

[Bobboau]

the government give monie to the schools under some conditions one of these is that the military can come in and recruit, the school can choose to ban the military from there campuses for whatever reason they like but they can't turn around and ***** when the government cuts funding, becase 'the government'~= 'the military'. it's like haveing some evangelist groupe paying to prostolatise in the halls, and then you kick them out becase there anoying, but you demand that they keep paying you anyway.

now as for the military not belonging in these schools to begin with/recruiting stuff other bull, in my school we have a recruiting booth set up every other week if you'r stupid enough to get talked into joining the military then you probly don't belong in collage to begin with. comeon, we're not talking childeren here, they are adults, they can manage to say no, or they should be able to anyway.

[aldo_14]

I don't think there is an ounce of, well, morality in effectively bribing schools to allow military recruiters in....  

From what I can tell, it's not even bribery but punishment; it only refers to the withdrawal of funds if the school refuses to allow recruiters in.

[Bobboau]

up till now nobody has thought to do it, so it hasn't been an issue.
I don't see what the problem is, what's more important to you, the gay rights issue, or public funding, I honestly don't see how gay rights is going to be taken seriusly if every time the establishment does something the activists start crying like this. if that's the issue than you just had a victory, you kicked them out, now it just a matter of a battle of wills, but no you've gota *****.

crap I'm incoherant tonight.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Bobboau
up till now nobody has thought to do it, so it hasn't been an issue.
I don't see what the problem is, what's more important to you, the gay rights issue, or public funding, I honestly don't see how gay rights is going to be taken seriusly if every time the establishment does something the activists start crying like this. if that's the issue than you just had a victory, you kicked them out, now it just a matter of a battle of wills, but no you've gota *****.

crap I'm incoherant tonight.

It's not the whole gay rights thing that affects my opinion in this, I just don't like the principle of allowing the military such access to schools.... can I ask, is there any parallel arrangement to allow other state funded 'employers' such as the police, fire service, etc recruitng access to schools?