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Offline IceFire

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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ice Cream=Yum? :nervous:

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Offline Goober5000

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Originally posted by kasperl
I don't entirely get Goob's "cancel eachother out" thingy
Write it out on paper.  It's much easier.

I'll try to diagram it here...
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M1 = Earth
M2 = Moon


F = G * M1 * M2
    -----------
         2
        r


F = M2 * a


a =  F  or  a = F    1
    --            * --
    M2              M2


a = G * M1 * M2    1
    ----------- * --
         2
        r         M2

Cancel out the M2s, and you get

a = G * M1
    ------
       2
      r
So no matter what M2 is, it has no effect on the gravity.

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if you have two objects of identical mass distribution the effects on all the particles will average out to them acting only on the center of mass, generaly speaking this is an incredably good aproximation for all objects.
It's more than an approximation... it's the exact same thing.  You can treat everything as point masses, even black holes.  When you calculate the gravity on each point within the mass, and integrate over the volume of the entire mass, everything cancels out.  It gives exactly the same result as doing the conventional formula and treating it as a point mass.

 

Offline Bobboau

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wich is what i said.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ice Cream=Yum? :nervous:


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Offline Goober5000

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Originally posted by Bobboau
wich is what i said.
The first part, yes.  But the second part, no.  It's not an approximation... it's the same thing.  That's important to know.

 

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realy, even when you take into acount a diference in gravity that should tare any object apart, if you integrate it it will come out to be exact?
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Oh, crap.  Now I'm not so sure.

*/me checks Wikipedia*

Aha.  It does cancel out, but only for spherical masses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
« Last Edit: December 04, 2004, 07:02:37 pm by 561 »

 

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HAHA!
I'm right again!
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Now I see, thanks Goob.
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I'm right again!

You're right to within any measurable difference from being totally right.
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