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Offline Liberator

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This is deplorable, IMO. (politics, you've been warned)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97583,00.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Content/read.asp?ID=55

I find this morally repugnant.  The very idea that these people(the college professors) are the ones spewing tolerance and diversity, but now we find out that tolerance and diversity only extends to their own political persuaion.  If you're Republican/Conservative you are somehow automatically a bigot.  We've all known that this was going on, but now we have proof that there is a problem.
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Offline Corsair

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When you say 10-1 liberal, are we talking about liberal math professors? Is there a liberal way to teach math? Are we talking about Aristotle versus Plato or Bush versus Gore? Are we talking about, perhaps, biology professors? What is the relevance of how professors or anybody else votes?
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Offline aldo_14

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So what, you're claiming bias because of statistics?  I mean, have you got any proof whatsoever that actual discrimination takes place?  Or that there is a 50-50 split between applicants?  Or that political views even have any factor in the subjects taught.  I mean, I couldn't tell you the political leanings of any of the lecturers I had during my time at university.

I mean, if you look at the study in that second list, it acknowledges that the study data is incomplete and that political leaning is notoriously indeterminate.

 

Offline Kazan

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liberator you find other people's opinions morally repugnant -- that's hilariously ironic

you know if you're opinion isn't the same as most of the smart people, you should be wondering
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Offline Liberator

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Read the other link, it's the article that published the study.  They didn't check math/science teachers.
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We compiled lists of tenured or tenure-track professors of the Economics, English, History, Philosophy, Political Science and Sociology departments - choosing these because they teach courses focusing on issues affecting the society at large.
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Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Flipside

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It's awkward, since in a way, either could be producing the other....

Is the Question 'Why are there so few Conservative scientists being hired?'

Or is it 'Why do so many who get science degrees etc have liberal viewpoints?'

Fox News is, alas, unlikely to elaborate :(

 

Offline Kazan

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Fox News is the only news that liberator trusts


which is absolutely pathetic since they're the most biased, manipulative propaganda network ever

stalin would have killed to have fox news for his propaganda machine
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Offline Bobboau

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"Center for the Study of Popular Culture"

know nothing about this group, but this should be th first thing you should investigate.
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Offline Rictor

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Universities and colleges have always been progressive and leftward leaning. The reason is that a) most of the people in that age group tend to be generally speaking leftist and b) no offence, but educated people (eg those who attend places of higher learning) also lean toward the left, as do city-dwellers.

Seriously, are student politics really a new concept to you? Students are to the left what fundies are to the right, only not as, you know, deranged. ;) ;)

 

Offline Liberator

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Kaz, the only reason most of them teach is because they couldn't get a real job, academia is the only place that would have them.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Kamikaze

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Just because they tend to be liberal doesn't mean anything on its own. It could be that academics are more likely to be liberal. If they showed me some statistics on the political orientation of all professors then they may convince me.

I found how Hannity kept saying "unbalanced" funny. Liberals don't support "balance". They support equal rights. I don't give a damn whether there are 20% asians, 10% hispanics and 70% caucasian in a town... I only demand they get equal rights. I don't want the world becoming 50/50 gay/straight, but I do want homosexuals to have equal rights.
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Offline Bobboau

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Originally posted by Liberator
Kaz, the only reason most of them teach is because they couldn't get a real job, academia is the only place that would have them.


wow, I've heard that _exact_ same phrase somewere before, oh yeah, the Sean Hannity show.
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Offline Kazan

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Originally posted by Liberator
Kaz, the only reason most of them teach is because they couldn't get a real job, academia is the only place that would have them.


ok liberator - this post is repugnant


It is absolutely morally repugnant that you hold such bigoted views, it's a sad state of affairs and a stain upon the honor of Lady Liberty that people who call themselves free, liberators, etc hold such opinions, and think that democrazy is for export only

you are repugnant, you are disgusting, you are a bigot
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Originally posted by Liberator
Kaz, the only reason most of them teach is because they couldn't get a real job, academia is the only place that would have them.


Assuming that this is the opinion most right-wingers like yourself have of academia can you now see why so few of your own kind go into teaching? :rolleyes:
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Offline Flipside

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Sorry Lib, but a lot of these people have gone through years and years of extensive study and testing to get where they are today. We touch on the difference between on what you believe and what they believe and on the relative value of those things to us, so I'm not going to say any more on the matter ;)

 

Offline Rictor

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Lib: thats BS and you know it. Academics are among the finest minds our society has to offer, and their job is far more important than anything tangible, they educate and enlighten future generations. If I didn't have other goals in life, I would love to be a politics or social science prof.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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I find it replusive because the article occupies less than half of the page...

 

Offline Rictor

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Kaz: do shut up dear fellow. There's a good lad. Lets hold a contests, who can go the longest without using the word bigot, fascist, christfascist or repugnant.

Ready, get set, go!

 

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