[pyro-manic]

Battleship: very large, heavily armed and armoured. Principal fleet capital ship up until about 1943. Very powerful against other warships, but vulnerable to bomb/torpedo attack from multiple attack craft. Basically a FS destroyer like a Hecate. Shouldn't really have a fighterbay, but that would cause problems...

A battlecruiser is like a battleship, but faster and more lightly armoured. E.g. HMS Hood: Biggest ship in the world until the yanks built the Iowas, 15-inch guns, very fast, light armour. So it'd be like a Hecate with ~30% less hitpoints and 25 speed.

Monitors were heavy support vessels. Example: the HMS Roberts was about 100m long, could do about 15kts, and had a pair of 15-inch battleship guns. Was used for bombarding shore targets at the Normandy landings. I suppose the FS equivalent would be to arm an Aeolus with a BGreen beam and not much else.

[Carl]

Originally posted by c914
i never realize that Seraphim os soo big.

yeah, it's ginormous, but it's so slow it's easy to shoot down. they might as well have made it a cruiser.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Grimloq
battleship : self sustaining, similar to hecate, but never needs resupplying

It grows it's own fuel and munitions? Somehow I don't see cornstarch as the unlimited powersource of the future.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Nuke
i got one of theese

Uuuu...sleek!:D

I like Gatling guns;7

[c914]

about beams. I was thinking that two beams on Taurus has same power as Fenris main cannon. I forgot that this cruiser posses LTerSlash not SGreen.
hmm.. i  will try to do those beams as only aginst cap ships soo they shouldnt fire to bombers and fighters, ofcourse they will be as pirmarys....i need to do some test with those and cheek if it works:doubt:

yeah, it's ginormous, but it's so slow it's easy to shoot down. they might as well have made it a cruiser

for cruiser it's too smal if  :V:  had add to it 2 more turrets with something more powerful than shival light laser Seraphim could be gunship

[Nuke]

the maelstrom there had beams originally but i removed them in favor of the gatling guns. i consider it in the same class as a wwii torpedo boat or an a-10 warthog. it has full turret coverage so its protected against all but the heavyest fighters and bombers. it is quite effective against criusers and corvettes, but can attack everything up to a juggernaught (the gatling guns are quite effective in bearbaiting). its handeling is halfway between a cain and an ursa. the extended cockpet was designed for 4 man crew (pilot, two guners and a payload officer). its got 3 missile bays but i want 4. it was designed pre-htl so i might curve it up abit more.

[Turnsky]

i'd say frigate.

[Trivial Psychic]

Um, its already established that the Iceini was a frigate, so that one won't work.  It would appear that no pre-existing FS2 ship class can adequately describe this warship.

[Grimloq]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
It grows it's own fuel and munitions? Somehow I don't see cornstarch as the unlimited powersource of the future.

...

you never know

(i meant like, it can harvest its own fuel, grow its own food, etc. it doesnt need a supply ship to resupply, it does so on its own. )

[Nuke]

the class is gunboat, longer range than a fighter but shorter than a criuser.

[StratComm]

Gunboat, definitely.  And the Iceni is officially a Corvette, though it is occaisonally refered to as a Frigate.  If you want a canonical reference as to what a freespace frigate is, look no farther than the Hippocrates.

[NGTM-1R]

"The Iceni is the NTF command frigate"...? "Bosch and his frigate have jumped!"...?

All in-game references to the Iceni are as if it were a frigate. Only the shortname that shows up in FRED is different. I therefore conclude the Iceni is, canonically, a frigate, and the shortname is a leftover bit from before they decided it was a frigate.

I know the model name says corvette too, but you wouldn't know that unless you were poking around in the dark corners of the tables.

[Grimloq]

the hippocrates is a MEDICAL frigate. theres a HUGE difference.

[StratComm]

"Command we're 5 clicks from that corvette!"  ~Alpha 2

The game is contradictory on itself throughout.  Especially when you consider that the specific differences between the Iceni and a Deimos are at best minor, it's pretty clear that both are of the same class.  If anything the two class names are used interchangably.  Grimloq, "Medical Frigate" sounds like it's special because it was in Star Wars.  There's no historical precident for that distinction.

[karajorma]

I think the explaination for the contradictions that makes the most sense to me is that there isn't an official frigate classification in the GTVA now but that there used to be one. As such some people use the word for something bigger than a corvette while others use the official designation of corvette.

Of course if you're making your own mods you can then say that Command have decided to make Frigate an official class again.

[aldo_14]

Isn't the ship that looks llike the Hippocrates in Return of the Jedi  also the one that is  referred to as a medical frigate?

Um, I liked the idea Venom(?) had for a frigate; namely that it's simply a warship designed for some specific special purpose - like the Shivan frigate in OtT was designed to ram ships, and the Vasudan one would be (for example, I can't remember what it really did) an artillery frigate; that sort of thing.

[Nuke]

in rotj it was a medical freighter. im thinking that in freespace the term 'frigate' implies that it is a special purpose ship. bosh could have commanded a destroyer but the smaller faster icene was used instead. did it not also double as a research vessel?

[Janos]

"They're heading for the medical fregate". Nebulon-B.

[NGTM-1R]

I always figured that a frigate was, essentially, a pocket destroyer, shrunk down because it is missing the fighterbay. The Iceni, after all, can go one-on-one with an Orion and stand a reasonable chance of winning.

[c914]

That could do Deimos with Hecate:p