[aldo_14]

Oh ****, politics.........

[an0n]

"A document released for the first time today by the American Civil Liberties Union suggests that President Bush issued an Executive Order authorizing the use of inhumane interrogation methods against detainees in Iraq... The two-page e-mail that references an Executive Order states that the President directly authorized interrogation techniques including sleep deprivation, stress positions, the use of military dogs, and 'sensory deprivation through the use of hoods, etc.' The ACLU is urging the White House to confirm or deny the existence of such an order and immediately to release the order if it exists."

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=17216&c=206

[.::Tin Can::.]

The ACLU? Does anyone actually listen to them anymore? These guys are reknown for their ass-holery.

[aldo_14]

(bbc articles as well)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4113679.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4114455.stm

[.::Tin Can::.]

Good job aldo.

[Rictor]

Remember how Bush won the election cause of "morals"?
...
yeah, that was sweet.

[TopAce]

It described strangulation, beatings and the placing of lit cigarettes into detainees' ears.

[Rictor]

tin can: you do realize that if the ACLU hadn't taken up the case, none of this would have become known about, right? They're the ones who obtained the documents which show that torture is systematic and a matter of policy.

[kasperl]

This seems like a nice politcal dogfight to watch......

[Gloriano]

They don't get truth about something when using torture, only forced truth (wich is bull**** usually ) and real criminal gets away and innocence ends in prison


Really nicely done bush, you showed your stupidity once agan.

[Janos]

freeeeeeeeedoooooooooooom
oh shi

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Even if they are found guilty they'll find some way out of doing time or paying any serious compensation.

They raped a country and got away with it.
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[Rictor]

Of course, the military takes care of its own. And all US soldiers have immunity from prosection by Iraqi law enforcement, so....

[Tiara]

...and also have immunity from prosecution by any court other then a US one.

I smell hypocrititical assholes here. And it doesn't smell like roses.

[Hippo]

Why doesn't this suprise me?

[WMCoolmon]

I'd say I'm not so alarmed at this as I am that it was kept a secret.

Yeah, you could say it was national security - because then the 'terrorists' might fight harder - but doesn't that sort of say something? And don't people have something of a right to know what their government's doing in a war, especially when they're the ones fighting it?

That's all assuming this isn't just a ploy to discredit Bush. I won't be too surprised eitehr way.

[Rictor]

The government is as secretive as it possibly can be, and this comes as a surprise?

Secrecy is its own end. They don't want to be one bit more accountable than they have to be, so they try to hide stuff like this.

[SadisticSid]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
That's all assuming this isn't just a ploy to discredit Bush. I won't be too surprised eitehr way.

Especially since the ACLU's credibility is about on par with that of Pravda.

[Flipside]

Well, I'd give it a lot less weight if the FBI, when asked, had said 'Don't be silly' or some kind of emphatic denial, but instead they chose not to comment, which is rather wierd...

[Kosh]

Originally posted by TopAce

Didn't the US invade Iraq to stop that kind of thing?

That's all assuming this isn't just a ploy to discredit Bush. I won't be too surprised eitehr way.

We have at least one credible source posting this, which backs up the ACLU.