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Offline Kazan

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Yushchenko was poisoned - AP
on: December 11, 2004, 09:35:35 am
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Reply #1 on: December 11, 2004, 02:21:59 pm
Indeed.
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Reply #2 on: December 11, 2004, 02:26:28 pm
Well, now we know what the poison was...
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Reply #3 on: December 11, 2004, 02:35:09 pm
Wow... that really sucks to be him.
 

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Reply #4 on: December 11, 2004, 02:45:01 pm
so, he gets poisoned and suddenly looks like actor/director Peter Dalle

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Reply #5 on: December 11, 2004, 03:18:03 pm
Old news, but tragic. it looks like he has an alergic reaction.
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Reply #6 on: December 11, 2004, 05:43:13 pm
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Old news, but tragic. it looks like he has an alergic reaction.


The hospital announced it was diagnosed as the result of dioxin poisoning.  So unless you're working in the Rudolfinerhaus clinic, I'd say you're wrong.
 

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Reply #7 on: December 11, 2004, 05:57:41 pm
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so, he gets poisoned and suddenly looks like actor/director Peter Dalle



wow, the resembelance is uncanny.
 

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Reply #8 on: December 11, 2004, 06:52:48 pm
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The hospital announced it was diagnosed as the result of dioxin poisoning.  So unless you're working in the Rudolfinerhaus clinic, I'd say you're wrong.


poisoning and allergic reactions are pretty much the same. allergens are like poison to allergics
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Reply #9 on: December 11, 2004, 06:58:35 pm
Reactions, yes.  But an allergic reaction happens in susceptible people in response to some normal stimulus, poisoning happens when any person ingests a substance which causes harm.  

Besides which, the announcement stated he had something like 1000 times the normal level of dioxin (a known carcinogen, one of the first actions of which is chloroacne, hence the skin damage); and that it was a single large dose.
 

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Re: Yushchenko was poisoned - AP
Reply #10 on: December 11, 2004, 08:18:59 pm
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wow. that looks pretty bad. now that they know what it is, will that help them figure out what to do about it?
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Reply #11 on: December 11, 2004, 09:43:40 pm
Well, alright, poor guy. I do sympathise. But being poisoned does not make him any better or worse a candidate for the presidency, it only makes the other guy a total prick. Specifically, I he think he would make a better Prez, though not the white knight that the media makes him out to be.

Remember, he too in an oligarch (some would argue ex-oligarch), and his support (I don't mean the populist take to the streets kind of support, I mean the kind that matters - financial support) comes from energy giants and neo-libs who pillaged state assets after the fall of communism.
 

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Reply #12 on: December 11, 2004, 09:52:58 pm
Is that damage permanent?
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Offline ChronoReverse

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Reply #13 on: December 11, 2004, 11:49:41 pm
Fairly, it takes a long time to for the body to break down and get rid of dioxin.  Futhermore, it's a carcinogen so it's not good that he had over 1000X the normal amount in his system.  I hear he's been undergoing blood transfusions, but his organs are still swollen (whatever that means).
 

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Reply #14 on: December 12, 2004, 12:05:37 am
it means they're big and puffy and red.
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Reply #15 on: December 12, 2004, 09:23:24 am
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Is that damage permanent?


IIRC they say it'll take around 2 years for the chloroacne to clear up on the bbc news article.
 

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Reply #16 on: December 12, 2004, 09:29:43 am
Not to mention the fact that it's almost certain he'll die of cancer (unless something else gets him fairly quickly).

Dioxin is the chemical responsible for the birth defects and cancer clusters associated with the US's use of Agent Orange in Vietnam.
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Reply #17 on: December 12, 2004, 11:07:59 am
Yeah, Aldo's right. The BBC says it'll take two years for his skin to return to normal. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4089905.stm
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Reply #18 on: December 12, 2004, 12:25:53 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922
If the KGB wanted to kill him I think they would have been a little more successful. What do you think?
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Reply #19 on: December 12, 2004, 02:18:35 pm
The KGB/FSB is notorious for poison, you'd think they'd pick one that would actually kill the man though.
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