[Taristin]

My teachers got around that by saying " I don't know what you believe, it doesn't matter. If it'll help you learn, you can think that Evolution is God's plan, but for my tests, you will be required to know the process of Evolution, and to understand it."

[WeatherOp]

Well, you can ether take it, or fail and not go to college and become dumb.  And English is against southern religon, but got to have it.

[Bobboau]

1 Kings 7:23   And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

ten cubits from the one brim to the other
a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about

PI = 3

[an0n]

Indeed.

[PeachE]

Originally posted by WeatherOp
... And English is against southern religon, but got to have it.

as you so eloquently and consistently demonstrate

[WeatherOp]

Wuz that a insalt to us souuthern folks?

[Ford Prefect]

I am doing my best to restrain my forked Northeastern toungue.

[Fergus]

MWAHAHAHAHA
I know what will at least double this thread.
"Fire in the hole" (chucks in political grenade and jumps out of thread)
The majority of the Neo-Con's are creationists, who are the current legislative government in America, if they get thier way the view to hold a free view will be lost in America.

(Fergus laughs manically as he runs away, brandashing more political, Religous-Evolutionist and American grenades, towards the next dangerous thread)

[karajorma]

Nah. We'll just ignore you and talk about something else

[karajorma]

Originally posted by WeatherOp
Ok, prove to me that evolution is happening today, no fossils. I want to see a form that showed some evolution in the past 100 years?

This was posted earlier. Snakes evolving smaller heads in order to prevent poisoning by cane toads.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4073359.stm

[Janos]

Originally posted by an0n
And as another clarification for the mentally retarded / religious amongst you:

Evolution is not an event, it is a process.

Like how kicking a ball does not constitute an FA-sanctioned game of football.

It goes like this: Thing -> Change in habitat starts killing off Thing -> Mutation happens (or becomes apparent) which counteracts effects of change -> Thing 2 multiplies -> Thing 1 dies off -> Thing 2 prevails.

That's evolution.

The weak are ****ed, the better suited prevail.

As for the no-hand analogy, by having a no-hands mutation, they are less suited to their environment and thus are less likely to breed. Thus serving evolution.

Well that's actually inaccurate; evolution is simply a process, in which organism/whatever changes over time, unless you used the "weak will perish" as a metaphore.

[vyper]

Fergus, you aint' a Kazan


And to address an earlier point: The New Testemant was ordered by the catholic church (or it's then incarnation). The end result was... interesting, they dismissed almost 100 possible candidates to write it on the grounds they refused to lie about Magdalene (sp?).

[Fergus]

(Cries) noooooo!
(crawls into corner-dies-fails to finish mission)
(Brimstone and echoing laugher are all that remain)

[Singh]

Originally posted by karajorma


This was posted earlier. Snakes evolving smaller heads in order to prevent poisoning by cane toads.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4073359.stm

I thought darwin's finches were a pretty good case too. The way their beaks evolved over each generation was one of the key corner stones for his theory in the first place.

[Singh]

on the original topic itself:

as a foreigner, id have to agree with KT 'westernization' appears to reduce the mental capacity for most teenagers. Hell, im only 19 years ago, yet I seem to feel like 90 compared to the maturity of some of the younger folks that come into service these days.

Why, oh why can teenagers not learn that if they DO something, it was THEIR choice, and THEY are responsible for it, not anyone or anything else. If it sucks, suck it up and live with it. I managed to learn it when I was 14, why cant they??

[Knight Templar]

Because Budweiser, straight ballin' and keepin' it crunk wit yo shorty are a lot funner apparently.

[Grey Wolf]

My suggestion: Perhaps most teens have always been retarded, and no one noticed until now....

[Ford Prefect]

The majority of the Neo-Con's are creationists

Wouldn't bet on that. The political neoconservatives are quite a pragmatic bunch. They deal in reality; they have no time for fringe superstition.

[Fergus]

John Ashcroft, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld and a whole bunch of Straussian's who are highly evangelical are in the current U.S. government, and it is the fact that these are not fringe beliefs is what frightens many.

[Ford Prefect]

I don't think Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are Evangelicals. If they are, it hardly matters, since their agenda is a political one. They're equally frightening in my opinion, but there is a distinction to be made between the religious idealogues like Ashcroft, (who resigned anyway), and the Machiavellian conquerors.