Author Topic: Suprnova gone (Read 4020 times)

Rictor · **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2004, 08:23:29 pm

oooh, so its a full scale war, is it?
Fine then.

DOWN
suprnova
Torrentbits
phoenix
DVDr-Core
Torrentmania
BT-GM
youceff
tbox

DOUBTFULL
filelist.org is full
torrentreactor seems to be working
bi-torrent
lokitorrent is restarting

WORKING
elite-torrents
lots of other, smaller sites.

*note that this is just a copy-paste from somewhere else and The Management can not be held responsible for the accuracy of the above list.

Kosh · **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2004, 01:48:17 am

RIAA/MPAA = t3h Shivans........

diamondgeezer · **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2004, 05:34:03 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4110877.stm

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aldo_14 · **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2004, 05:41:56 am

Just make sure you stop spending any money on going to see, rent or buy films.

redmenace · **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2004, 06:29:36 am

All of my favorite bit torrent sites have bit the dust. SHOOT.

vyper · **Reply #25 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:07:35 am

Well it's all definately caused a performance hit, I'm barely able to get any torrent to actually connect, and when I do they're averaging about 2KB/s.

Gloriano · **Reply #26 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:14:58 am

Oh well...it happens, old torrent sites goes down and new ones takes their place.

I don't use any filesharing so much, just some things that i want find

Rictor · **Reply #27 on:** December 20, 2004, 08:05:49 am

read this foo's

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=626

edit: actually, not really all that interesting

Fury · **Reply #28 on:** December 20, 2004, 08:38:41 am

Coverup.
http://forum.muphin.net/viewtopic.php?t=12

And this link cannot be posted too many times.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=exeem&btnG=Google+Search
Suprnova will be back... with eXeem.

Clave · **Reply #29 on:** December 20, 2004, 09:43:45 am

I'm going to risk some controversy by saying that if the site was used for illegal file sharing, then maybe they did the right thing?

Or am I missing some moral argument here?

To me illegal = wrong *shrug*

aldo_14 · **Reply #30 on:** December 20, 2004, 09:45:29 am

Yeah, but the MPAA and RIAA are creatively bankrupt dickheads anyway, so...........

Rictor · **Reply #31 on:** December 20, 2004, 09:54:44 am

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Originally posted by Clave
To me illegal = wrong *shrug*

what?

Since when does the government decide what is right and wrong. are you saying that any law in existence is just simply because it is a law? There are tons of laws that are blatantly wrong, and people shouldn't simply go along because the authority figure tells them to. What if they made a law tommorow that said wearing blue shirts was illegal. Would it be wrong to wear blue?

Yes, it is stealing, but stealing isn't always wrong. I fully acknowledge that I am stealing, but when we're talking about faceless, usually heartless corporations who are in large part responsible for the stifiling of creativity in the music industry, I just don't care.

aldo_14 · **Reply #32 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:09:53 am

I don't think 'I broke the law because I think it's wrong' is a particulalry effective defense, though.

aldo_14 · **Reply #33 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:18:02 am

However, let it not be said I will ever support the likes of the RIAA and (in this case) their Antipodean cousins;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/20/music_biz_red_cross/

Australian anti-piracy operatives are seeking a freeze on funds donated to the International Red Cross by a Vanuatu-based trust fund run by Sharman Networks - maker of Kazaa P2P software.

The recording industry is asking the Red Cross to voluntarily freeze the cash pending the outcome of an Australian court case brought against Sharman by several record companies. The suit alleges that Sharman "has directly and indirectly infringed on the recording companies' copyrights, violated Australian fair trade laws and conspired to harm the music industry", according to a Wired report.

Michael Speck of Australia’s Music Industry Piracy Investigations said: "We're preparing our approach to the International Red Cross. I believe this whole thing will come as a complete surprise to them, and we’re only approaching them to stop them disposing of any funds."

Speck expressed his hope that the Red Cross would co-operate, adding: "It would be incredibly disappointing if we had to sue them."

Sharman has responded by declaring that the music biz's approach is "quite simply staggering", as the company's lawyer Mary Still put it.

The ongoing Sharman v Recording Industry case has been adjourned until next March, when both sides can make final oral submissions. The outcome depends on the judge's opinion of the music industry's assertion that the "primary activity of Kazaa users is to infringe copyright" - something that Sharman allegedly does nothing to prevent. ®

Clave · **Reply #34 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:44:29 am

The government decides the law, if you don't like that fact then **** off...

Or elect a new government....

Or do some revolutionary thing, you know, I just don't care...

Rictor · **Reply #35 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:45:39 am

aldo: not a good legal defence, I admit, but that's why you shouldn't get caught. There is a difference between a legal and a moral defence.

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Originally posted by Clave
The government decides the law, if you don't like that fact then **** off...

Thats a complete inversion of the principle of democracy and you damn well know it. The will of the people isn't something that happens once every four years, and then only between one of two monkies, its a continous process.

You know there's slogal in North Korea "The government decides, the people act"...

kasperl · **Reply #36 on:** December 20, 2004, 11:21:51 am

Look at it from another point: How the bloody **** am I supposed to get music from The Pogues or Fairport Convention if I cannot find vinyl's and CD's are impossible to get?

Or even if I somehow manage to get a store to order the stuff for me, how would I raise 20 euros? The artists wouldn't make more then 5 cents. Even if they make 50 cents from the album, I am NOT paying record company's 17 euro's for shipping and handling. (A CD cannot be more then €2,50 to make, including a rather thick booklet.)

Bobboau · **Reply #37 on:** December 20, 2004, 11:25:40 am

I miss TV shows, that's what I always used suprnova for, I'd've had no problem if there was a little banner add at the top of my computer during the download to pay for it, like is done with TV shows, why is it so imposable for these people to figure out a simple market stratigy that works online?!

aldo_14 · **Reply #38 on:** December 20, 2004, 11:26:00 am

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Originally posted by Rictor
aldo: not a good legal defence, I admit, but that's why you shouldn't get caught. There is a difference between a legal and a moral defence.

But, if you were downloading music from a struggling indie label with low margins and a genuine aim for quality, would that still be ok?

My arguement for file-sharing is basically that it provides a service akin to radio; you can discover new music and then buy the album, helping artists without the financial backing to match the advertising of talentless ****e-pop.

But evaluating the wholesale morality of a law on the basis of a single victim / group of victims is not the way to go.

Bobboau · **Reply #39 on:** December 20, 2004, 11:32:18 am

a lot of indie bands suport file shareing as it gets them noticed by more people.

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