[.::Tin Can::.]

Well, decided that my homesite needs to go through some changes:

http://www.freespaceserver.cjb.net/recoup/adia/news.htm

Unfortunately, my skills in ANY webcreation program are... bad...

The site itself is an image in Photoshop with just some HTML Hotspots on it to act as "buttons". Pretty piss-poor aint it? Well I had to make due.

Anyhow, in the meantime, I need to find some way to make something half-descent, at least. I use Dreamweaver, but it confuses the hell out of me, as most new programs do. Though I used it for the basics, I still can't make an attractive website layout. Nor will I be able to.

Anyhow, I'm looking for someone who has some idea how to put together something good in terms of website layout, or at least show me how. Need me to get Frontpage? Ok, I'll go nab it real quick.

My artistic skills also arent very good right now. The basics I do in Photoshop are image resizing, opacity jacking, and blending options, like glowing around the edges or bevel and embross.

Anyone got some ideas?

EDIT: Nobody?

[FireCrack]

i personlay recomend just learning HTML and writing it out in notepad or mabye some context sensetive editor.

[Kamikaze]

Yeah, try learning html. It'll take more time than hacking something together in dreamweaver or frontpage but it's better.

Try here for tutorials: http://www.w3schools.com/

[.::Tin Can::.]

I guess I'll give it a try.

[vyper]

I'd recommend "hacking it together" in Dreamweaver. (Never use frontpage.)

You can do what you want easily and quickly.

[.::Tin Can::.]

Can you give me some basic references to making a spiffy page, like what I need? I just looked at the HTML deal and... god thats a lot. I dont see how it could be made better with text in Notepad...

[Hippo]

I learned th bit of HTML that i know from a frontpage class (where i learned frontpage) and then picked the site apart in its HTML editor... I don't see why people dislike it, as it works fine if you can figure out where everything is...

[Windrunner]

use templates, if you want a good looking homepage.

[.::Tin Can::.]

Teach me in the ways of Templates........

Oh, by the way, in Dreamweaver, is there any way I can avoid having the text blue and underlined when I make a link?

New Site is: http://www.freespaceserver.cjb.net/recoup/BetaSite/Home.htm

[Kosh]

Yeah, most certainly stay away from frontpage. It writes all kinds of useless garbage code.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Kosh
Yeah, most certainly stay away from frontpage. It writes all kinds of useless garbage code.

So does Dreamweaver.

[Windrunner]

beta site looks ok, but remove those thick but remove those thick borders and make them thin as lines on this forum

[.::Tin Can::.]

I'll see what I can do. I still think it looks horrible.

[Ashrak]

dreamweaver works good for the most part (no flamewars go damnit)
but it needs a helping hand sometimes (displays stuff wrong)


and with the abilityes you described ..... no way your gonna make a website


well yes u can make one but not much better than the one you showed heh learn to draw in photoshop and havk the image so you have a layout

[.::Tin Can::.]

Can someone tell me what Templates are and how much more badass they are than the other options?

[Kamikaze]

Templates are just designs people make and let others use. Portal software (and blog/CMS software) have templates included.

[vyper]

Originally posted by Sandwich


So does Dreamweaver.

Yes but Dreamweaver works on all browsers (mostly). Frontpage acts like an IE fanboy on occasion which can be a ***** if ur doing something professional.

[Nico]

Pah, everybody criticizes frontpage, but now that it's not putting all that **** at the begining of the code, it's the one that gives the best results. Get real, it has evolved. You know, Win3.11 was useless, too. But now it's winXP

[Kamikaze]

Well, from the viewpoint of people who design websites to be accessible WYSIWYG editors are all junk.

That is, no matter how "proper" the WYSIWYG editor code is it doesn't mean it's a good, accessible webpage. Programs don't do stuff like set up the page to degrade gracefully in older browsers or work perfectly in all browsers.

They probably encourage using tables for layouts too, I doubt you can set up a left-side menu (without tables) using Frontpage/Dreamweaver.

[.::Tin Can::.]

More help:

When I place an image in Dreamweaver, and have the image produce a link, (Example, a thumbnail picture connecting to the full sized picture) the thumbnails are visible in Internet Explorer, but not Firefox. So, to Firefox users, my Media section has nothing in it, but in IE, all the images are there. What's the idea?!