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Offline Kosh

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I've been noticing more and more lately that GTVA anti-capitalship beams have an annoying good chance (i'd say 50-50) of totally missing their targets, even when they not supposed to. Has anyone else been noticing this?
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Offline WMCoolmon

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The primary gunners are all on Christmas leave. :p Or maybe they're trying to make up for the lack of a fire-beam-miss SEXP.

Have you been using different builds or is this a constant degradation using the same build?
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retail has this problem also...
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Offline Nuke

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yea, beams were designed to miss to make battles last longer.
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Offline TopAce

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Shivan beams, for instance are lethally accurate.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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I only see this with when either the firing ship or the target is just exiting subspace and has ungodly high velocity. If the beam is on a multipart rotating turret and it's the firing ship exiting subspace, it won't matter. Slash beams are bad about only being on target for less then half of the time they're being fired, though.
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Offline Nuke

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i dont understand why the gtva has such issues with aiming. our airborne laser system (the 707 tested during the star wars program) can land its beam accurate to within an inch, and it needs to stay on target long enough to penetrate through the skin. gtva turrets (and infact everything in the game), seem backwards in terms of technology.
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Offline TopAce

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It's a GAME! If all the beams hit the target, a battle between two Hecates would not take more than one minute.
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Offline Nuke

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duh its a game, my thought was that the beams were made to miss for game balence.
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But the shivans hit all the time... It is just kind of annoying.

 

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Offline FireCrack

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If you fly past a shivan ship and a shivan looks at you out the weindow you explode (or possibly implode)
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Kosh

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I've been noticing this with 3.6. Here is one of the most glaring examples:

In the first mission of "Just another day", when that Cain appears off the side of the Sasquatch, the Sas fires it's side Terslash, totally missing the Cain. It missed every single time, and appeared to have missed by exactly the same distance every time.

Another example was in Derelict:

In that mission where you have to fly within a certain distance of 3 Shivan cruisers and then let the Ignatius blow them straight to hell. At least in theory. In reality, it's first beam salvo only occationally hits them. During that entire "battle", the Ignatius' beams at best just nick the cruisers. I have seen this happen every once in a while.

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. I've also seen numerous other examples of this too.
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Offline redmenace

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try one of the more recent builds. because there was some code that was screwing up the original campaign as well.
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Offline Kosh

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So I might not just be crazy? :p I'll try it tomorrow.
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Offline FireCrack

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Do beams update their aim as they charge? or do they fire at an angle decided when they start charging?
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Offline Grimloq

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hheeeeeeyy... thats a good point...

wouldnt it be cool if beams could move? er, move along... like slashing but instead just moving WITH the target? lol...
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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You mean tracking beams?
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Offline FireCrack

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AAA beams alreeady do that if fired capship to capship

/me is proud of his newfound knowledge
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Kie99

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Yeah, you try to jump out and then a BFRed, previously targeting the now destroyed Colossus, zoooms over and you blow up.
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