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15 foot waves? You're far more heavily f**ked than that.



Not to start a flame or anything, but if you read what I said, 15 foot "STORM SURGE" not Tsunami, Big difference. Just to clear that up. A Tsunami would be WAY WAY bigger than that.
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Not to start a flame or anything, but if you read what I said, 15 foot "STORM SURGE" not Tsunami, Big difference. Just to clear that up. A Tsunami would be WAY WAY bigger than that.

The tsunami here was seen to be between 30 and 40 foot high IIRC.
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Wow, Just on the news. Holland has given 27 million Euro plus 9.7 million Euro in donations. (For the non-European people this is roughly 36.5 million USD) and the EU wants to give 300 million Euro (or 410 million USD).

Ofcourse this is just the money raised so far.

:eek: :)

Note, this is not meant to be any sort of political arguement! I'm just very glad to see that such help is extended to those people. They really need this money to rebuild their infrastructure. And I hope that the people here have donated some money as well. :)


And Sandwhich, if you want to ban me for quoting donations, go right ahead. :doubt:
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I was reading a little while back that out of the £500m donated so far the UK had donated £50m. That's 1/10th of all the money donated by the entire world.

For once I'm very proud of my country :) I'm not getting political but it does prove that for all our other faults no one can knock the british people for their charity.

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Not to start a flame or anything, but if you read what I said, 15 foot "STORM SURGE" not Tsunami, Big difference. Just to clear that up. A Tsunami would be WAY WAY bigger than that.


Actually no. I've heard reports of 15 foot tsunami's causing devestation. Everyone watches Deep Impact or movies like it and expects the tsunami to be 100 foot high or something.

Anyway what I was pointing out is that there is a big problem waiting to happen. Even if Aldo is correct that the landslide would break up and cause less devestation I think we can all agree that it would have some effect on the eastern seaboard.
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Originally posted by karajorma
I was reading a little while back that out of the £500m donated so far the UK had donated £50m. That's 1/10th of all the money donated by the entire world.

For once I'm very proud of my country :) I'm not getting political but it does prove that for all our other faults no one can knock the british people for their charity.  


That's just the government, too.... there's been £34m (about $60m) in public donations over the last 3 nights, and that's excluding the cheque and stuff donations that have yet to clear.

Kudos in particular to Sweden, who are the second highest national donor ($75m).  But it's good to see that people not only care, but that they are doing something to help rather than simply give lip service to it.

 

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Death Toll may Exceed 400,000 in Indonesia

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm

this is Aceh, before and after:








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I did donate 300$ today
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Why are they stripping the copyright notices off the images, though?  I noticed that the uk tabloids (er, images of their pages on the morning news; I don't buy that crap) do the same, usually pasting a caption over the (C) notice.

Um....  400,000 is probably possible.  I have no idea how many are missing, I don't think anyone really does at the moment; entire towns have been wiped out and are only just being reached by air or land.

  

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They said Tsunami's will suck back the Ocean, before they come inland. Now what a scary sight that would be, even worse if you knew whats coming.:shaking:
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And Sandwhich, if you want to ban me for quoting donations, go right ahead. :doubt:


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how long does it take for you to see I do that on purpose? :p
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Probably until you come out and say it, like you just did. Of course, now I have to decide whether you're just covering up an inconvienient mistake or not. ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Vatever you say, Comrade Sandveech...

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Yeah yeah.

Anyway, good news. The US has boosted their aid x10 to $350 mil. I just hope the relief efforts can be coordinated properly - I'm hearing about distribution problems. :(
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:):yes: Good to hear that!

Yes, distribution is a problem. the only way to get to most places is by boat or chopper. Planes can't land in the vicinity, all infrastructure is litterally destroyed. It's a mess.
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Air-drops? Most supplies could probably be parachuted in on pallets...
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Air-drops? Most supplies could probably be parachuted in on pallets...

And watch the mob storm at it, killing dozens in the process? No, it needs to be regulated or it will be total chaos.
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Yeah yeah.

Anyway, good news. The US has boosted their aid x10 to $350 mil. I just hope the relief efforts can be coordinated properly - I'm hearing about distribution problems. :(


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Japan has raised it's aid to $500m... I'm hoping there is now a sort of  one-upmanship over who can donate most.