[an0n]

Put simply: Reap what ye sow.

If you steal a girl, she's there to be stolen.

[Unknown Target]

That statement has no correlation to the previously stated points made by WMCoolmon and I.

Nor is it particularly intelligable.

[an0n]

It does. Just in an obscure way.

[Unknown Target]

Following most of your posts and arguments thus far: inane and only slightly relevant.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
However, if you were opposing my point, and using that as a situation where it would be acceptable to be a "bad guy" and move in on the person's partner, well, there's no way of telling if the attraction exists in the other party, so therefore, you must be implying that it is acceptable to go "fishing" every single time you want someone who is in a relationship.

Yes. I was going to say 'except if you just want to spend the night with them', but as long as they have the choice to say no, ie it's not rape, then I have a hard time saying that the person initiating things was doing something wrong by asking them.

And I don't understand this line:
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Are you referring that it's disrespectful to ask or not to ask?

I'm saying it's more disrespectful to ask. It's still being respectful, by asking, but it's still questioning her decision.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Following most of your posts and arguments thus far: inane and only slightly relevant.

Yeah, well, you're a virgin.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon

Yes. I was going to say 'except if you just want to spend the night with them', but as long as they have the choice to say no, ie it's not rape, then I have a hard time saying that the person initiating things was doing something wrong by asking them.

So...which view are you supporting then?

I'm saying it's more disrespectful to ask. It's still being respectful, by asking, but it's still questioning her decision.

I agree, although I don't think it would always be taken as such.

[Kosh]

Originally posted by IceFire
I'm very much Guy A.  Damn...

Ditto. Sucks when they don't bother to inform you of something THAT important.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
So...which view are you supporting then?

"Yes".

In more broader terms, I think girls are still people (Who doesn't?) but I don't think respect is as important as you suppose. Trying to treat girls with respect is great...if you want a lot of friends. Self-confidence is much more likely to win the hearts of girls and women alike. Although to be brutally honest, girls usually tend more towards self-assured manipulative types, while women tend towards successful, self-confident men.
But I think a lot of girls don't want guys to be respectful, because they want to be able to stay back and judge them. A guy who is cotinually thinking of the girl will force her to reveal things about herself rather than learning things about him.
Women, on the other hand, are less insecure about their ability to judge people so they aren't as worried to put more of themselves out there.

[Nuke]

regaurding the a - b idea, there are things guy a can do to make themselves a variable in the equasion. theres always the option of a friendly date (i just had one of theese a few hours ago). this could be a lunch or a group date (i went out with 2 gals, one was single an another was in a relationship). the purpose of this date was to make friends, not to get laid. if guy a cant take the gal out on an offitial date, a friendly date may be in order. have lunch or take her and a couple of her/your friends out.the chance of her wanting to stay with guy b will diminish greatly if she is in beter company with her friends. this is a passive aproach that will allow you to avoid being disrespectfull. its like a girl you are dating all the sudden wants to just be friends, but tht works both ways. friends can become more. also it causes the side effect of getting to know more people which helps you find more potential dates. of course it helps to always manage your budget in a way to always have date money.

[Ransom]

Eh... I think the problem is many seem to assume women are some kind of hive mind. One 'strategy' that works for one of them will not necessarily work on all of them. They are, surprisingly, all different people. I don't really have all that much experience, but I treat my girlfriend with respect and have been with her for over a year, which seems to be longer than most teenage relationships last, at least. As far as I can tell, it's more to do with what kind of person you are, and what kind of person they are. There is no magical strategy that makes women like you (at least, for more than a few days, if you count alcohol/drugs as a strategy), or some kind of personality all women share.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Being a jerk is what some guys try until they realise that the girls that go for jerks either are not emotionally mature or they have low self esteem and are needy.

I know guys who get depressed all the time because they're not in relationships but from some of the relationships I've seen they'd be more depressed if they were in one like that. As for looks determining your attractiveness; how many so called 'ugly' people have you seen in relationships?

Probably a lot.
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[IceFire]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Being a jerk is what some guys try until they realise that the girls that go for jerks either are not emotionally mature or they have low self esteem and are needy.

I know guys who get depressed all the time because they're not in relationships but from some of the relationships I've seen they'd be more depressed if they were in one like that. As for looks determining your attractiveness; how many so called 'ugly' people have you seen in relationships?

Probably a lot.
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Yeah...this is true...but the realiziation of these truths doesn't realy help the given situation.  It just postpones things a bit longer...and a bit longer...until when?  Is it destined for some people to just keep waiting or are they supposed to try and do something in the meantime?

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]It's like anything else, unlikely to come to you if you just wait around. You have to find it for yourself and that means putting yourself in the right situations, you're not going to find a girl sitting inside all day, join some clubs that interest you.

Uni's great for that, you not only get to join clubs and societies that are interesting and fun, there are girls there too that share your interests.

I've never met any girl I was attracted to in a night club or disco.
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[Nuke]

what ive found about dating is that it requires patience, respect, luck, and a $h!tload of cash.

[IceFire]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]It's like anything else, unlikely to come to you if you just wait around. You have to find it for yourself and that means putting yourself in the right situations, you're not going to find a girl sitting inside all day, join some clubs that interest you.

Uni's great for that, you not only get to join clubs and societies that are interesting and fun, there are girls there too that share your interests.

I've never met any girl I was attracted to in a night club or disco.
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Yeah no problem there...got that advice long ago.  More than just for finding girls...for self development.  Thats what high school pushed and thats what I did in University.  Student government, two student socities, and a couple of intramural sports teams.  No joy...and not that I'd met protentials all over the place...but luck has not been on my side for any of them.

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]I've never met any girl I was attracted to in a night club or disco.
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You're going to the wrong clubs

[EDIT]Phear my caps locking powers![/EDIT]

[Nuke]

screwing chicks you meet in bars might get your rocks off, but her little shvans will colonize the spheres of your nether reigons

[vyper]

It's called a condom. Use eet.

[Nuke]

Originally posted by vyper
It's called a condom. Use eet.

condoms do not stop transmission of crabs