[Thorn]

Originally posted by Raa
Could it be that the mobo needs the additional 12v atx plug? My parent's PC wouldn't post without it, and since the old PSU they had lacked it, I didn't know there shoud have been one.

Just a suggestion.

Thats a P4 only thing. At least it was last I checked.

[Taristin]

Yeah, My PC didn't have it, but my parent's did... But since I didn't know what CPU was being used and I didn't bother to look up the boards, I offered it as a suggestion.

[Clave]

Ugh, I had forgotten what a hideous rats-nest of wires the average PC has inside....

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Clave
Ugh, I had forgotten what a hideous rats-nest of wires the average PC has inside....

ooh i love it

the only things that makes it look so bad are the IDE cables.  if i clean those up, and make them neat and tidy, then it'll be a clean little computer

[Clave]

There's tidy, and there's tidy!

[aldo_14]

Uh huh.  And how much does that cost compared to chucking together individual components & case bought off the 'net?

(about 3 times as much, I believe.  £1789 for a roughyl same-spec* mac as my cobbled together PC)

*excluding the obvious difference in processor architecture, so can't fairly say a 2.5GHz G5 is the same as a same-clock Athlon or P4.

[Stealth]

besides, who cares what it looks like inside  unlike mac users, most PC users have their cases sitting under their desk, with only the front panel showing.  who cares what it looks like inside an aluminum case

[Clave]

Mine is under my desk, and I don't care what it looks like (I actually liked the G4 better) BUT it is incredibly well laid out inside, that was my point...

[Stealth]

i disagree.  there really isn't a difference in the layout... it's just the wires are tidy and hidden.  i could do that to my PC if i had the time, effort, or want.

[pyro-manic]

I think the point is that Macs have bespoke hardware, so they will always be very tidy and well-laid out. PCs are essentially modular, so there's always going to be some untidy bits...

[Swamp_Thing]

The problem with most cases are the fan cables and IDE cables. My ThermalTake case has a window and neon, but there are so many cables that i can´t even see the motherboard. And i have round IDE cables, mind you! But with 8 fans needing power supply, there are just way too many wires going around...
Actually, i hate tower cases. The best cases are horizontal ones, i´m trying to get my hands on one, to make me a custom PC.

[Nuke]

check your front panel connections, i know many a moron who couldnt boot cause they connected an led where the power button should go.

[Stealth]

how would hooking up the switch wrong make a difference  the computer's turning on (check post 1)

[Clave]

So the battery thing was the culprit then?  Or is there more to fix?

[Nuke]

ok so i was in too big a hurry to read the entire thread this mornin.

[Grimloq]

....

whats the point of a neat and tidy case? you dont see the inside...

besdies, i like a rugged, hands-on looking PC interior makes people think i know what im doing when i build it.

[Kosh]

*excluding the obvious difference in processor architecture, so can't fairly say a 2.5GHz G5 is the same as a same-clock Athlon or P4.

It is unfair to compare them on a clock cycle per clock cycle  basis simply because the G5 is a RISC processors, the Athlon and the P4 are both CISC processors.

[Nuke]

my computer is indeed a rats nest of wires. and besides that practicly every card slot has something in it. i got a home made front panel usb connections, and an adapted laptop hard drive in there. my old cd brner is scsi and has a seprate controler card. my old ls-120 drive is on an ide cable. when assebling this thing i think i commited every attrocity you can in building your own computer.