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Offline Bobboau

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do you seriously think that's the only thing the people running the ban lists look at?

but still its only a minamal effect. you'know the RIAA has to be shakeing in there boots over it. :doubt:
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Offline Tiara

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I wonder if they have any authority over such sites that aren't based in the US.
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Offline Rictor

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From what I heard, it doesn't matter where the servers are, all that matters is where the "owner" of the site resides. And most countries fold pretty quickly when the US government tells them to go out and arrest a bunch of pimply faced teens, including Holland.

 

Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by Rictor
From what I heard, it doesn't matter where the servers are, all that matters is where the "owner" of the site resides. And most countries fold pretty quickly when the US government tells them to go out and arrest a bunch of pimply faced teens, including Holland.

Eeerrmmm, US government? :blah: Who said anything about that?

Besides, unless I commited a crime according to Dutch law, my ISP obligated to keep private information private. :D Only with substantial evidence can they reveal my personal data. And an IP tracker is merely circumstantial at best. They even won in court over this when BREIN (Dutch RIAA counterpart) wanted access to the data to track 'presumed illegal sharers'.

In any case, when BREIN wanted access to private data, it was kind of big news and not well received by many people. Not to mention that the ISPs actually defended the right to privacy (which surprised me). If the RIAA pressures them into giving up, they are overturning a legal descision made by the Dutch court. Somehow I doubt that will be well-received either.

In short; I love my country.
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Offline Stealth

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EDIT:  what the heck is up with the poor spelling and grammar within this thread?  are you doing it on purpose?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2005, 12:09:58 pm by 594 »

 

Offline vyper

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Originally posted by Tiara

Eeerrmmm, US government? :blah: Who said anything about that?

Besides, unless I commited a crime according to Dutch law, my ISP obligated to keep private information private. :D Only with substantial evidence can they reveal my personal data. And an IP tracker is merely circumstantial at best. They even won in court over this when BREIN (Dutch RIAA counterpart) wanted access to the data to track 'presumed illegal sharers'.

In any case, when BREIN wanted access to private data, it was kind of big news and not well received by many people. Not to mention that the ISPs actually defended the right to privacy (which surprised me). If the RIAA pressures them into giving up, they are overturning a legal descision made by the Dutch court. Somehow I doubt that will be well-received either.

In short; I love my country.


What if an EU court overturns it? :p  (Then we'll side which side of the EU debate you'll be on :p)
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Offline Tiara

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The EU can't 'just' overturn laws. :p

Besides, I don't like the EU anyway.

My little list of who i don't like;

- UN
- US
- EU

My little list of who I do like;

- Me

:D


Seriously, the EU currently is just f'ed up. They need some serious restructuring and A DEDICATED F'ING MILITARY BRANCH if they want to mean anything serious. Like it or not, but without a military you mean exactly ****. The only thing that keeps the EU running as a major power is it's economic might. They have the ability to cut off someone and barely suffer from it while the other watches it's economy take a dive.
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...am I the only person who can still access TorrentReactor?? :wtf:
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Offline BlackDove

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.net seems to be working, but not .com or .to

I think .net is a hoax though.

 

Offline Liberator

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Aye, Tiara, that's correct.  One problem I have with Bush is he is listening to whoever's telling him it's a good idea to raise the debt ceiling and continue to borrow money to make end's meet.  It's a very scary liberal behavior(you can't borrow you're way out of debt) and I'm on the verge of writing him a letter.  The dollar is on the verge of folding(it won't because so much of the world's money is tied up in dollars and foreign governments don't want to cause a depression by collapsing the US economy) and he's trying to fix it by spending money?  He should be doing enormous cutbacks to balance the budget and cut significant chunks from the deficit.  That's right cutbacks.  As Roosevelt(the American president who created the Welfare system) said, "Relief is like a narcotic, a little for a short period of time can be good for someone, too much or too long and it becomes a problem."  The largest weakness that we as citizens of our respective countries have, is that we are used to counting on the Government to take care of us.  That's not their responsibility though, their responsibility is to protect us from foreign agressors and internal threats like murders and such.  Look in the US Constitution and you'll see no lines promising free health care or medicines because you lived like a bloody grasshopper and didn't prepare for the inevitable time when you wouldn't be able to earn a living.  And I'm sorry 80% tax rates don't work for me.
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Offline BlackDove

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Are you kidding me?

**** off with the politics already.

Nobody cares.

Jesus.

 

Offline aldo_14

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It interesting how you blame social equality for a budget defecit when billions are being pissed away on foreign wars.....  but I guess the poor make good scapegoats.

  

Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by BD
Are you kidding me?

**** off with the politics already.

Nobody cares.

Jesus.

The thread had no further point anyway. And it's not like we're cursing and bashing people.

...unless you want to continue on about the RIAA, which is just as much political as what we were talkig about :doubt:

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And Aldo, I have to agree with you on your argument. While Lib is partly right, so are you.
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Offline Rictor

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I actually agree with Lib here. Its not the government job to look after everyone. But its also not their job to tax people for uneccesay stuff like an overbloated military and toys for the Pentagon brass.

Its interesting that, in effect, foreign countries are paying the bill for US wars, even though they are against them. Wars cost alot, so the US borrows. The creditors know they're not going to be payed back, but they have to lend the money or risk devaluing the dollar and with it the US Treasury bonds they hold. As long as the dollar remains dominant, America basically has a license to print money with no adverse affects to them.

 

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Just don't sign it "Liberator" - the Feds'll be all over you before you even get to the mailbox. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Stealth

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haha so troo






^^^^ in keeping with all the rest of the poor spelling in this thread

 

Offline Liberator

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Now why would I do an idiot thing like that?;)

I'm not so far gone that I can't tell reality from the Internet.  Though the internet is a bit more interesting sometimes.
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Offline Styxx

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Originally posted by Tiara
My little list of who I do like;

- Me

:D


Shouldn't TCO be on that list? :D
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Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by Styxx


Shouldn't TCO be on that list? :D

Ow, he knows I do. :D;)
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Offline kode

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Originally posted by vyper


What if an EU court overturns it? :p  (Then we'll side which side of the EU debate you'll be on :p)


they are looking into it, you know. they'll probably have a ruling finished in a few years or so.

meanwhile, at least torrents are legal in sweden.
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