[Gank]

Originally posted by Sapphire
Is Jesus a Jew now?  well......I don't think Jesus or God the Father considers themselves to be a part of any donomination or religion

Therefore he isnt Jewish? Time has nothing to do with it. He was then as he is now.

[Sapphire]

Originally posted by Gank
Obviously enough, therefore the arguement that hes Jewish could only be based on the fact that hes born in Judea.  

I'm sorry but your argument is flawed.  Being born in Judea, no more makes you a Jew than being born in Rome makes you a Roman Catholic...

[Ghostavo]

You are arguing against the same thing, yet you are arguing each other...

Now I've seen everything...

[Gank]

Originally posted by Sapphire
I'm sorry but your argument is flawed.  Being born in Judea, no more makes you a Jew than being born in Rome makes you a Roman Catholic...

umm, I believe I pointed that out when I refered to the millions of palestinians who were born in judea

[Sapphire]

No, he says my argument is based on Jesus being born in Judea.  I said nothing of the sort.  I was pointing out that being born there has nothing to do with it....

Yes or no?  Were Gentiles allowed to teach their paganism in the temples and synogogs?  If the answer is no.....then how is it that Jesus taught there?  Answer: because he was of the Jewish faith.

[Ghostavo]

Originally posted by Gank
Saying hes jewish doesnt either, considering the jews persecuted him for being a heretic. The only basis for saying hes jewish is the fact that hes born in judea, which would make the 2-3 million palestinians who were born there also jewish, and I dont see anyone arguing that.

Obviously enough, therefore the arguement that hes Jewish could only be based on the fact that hes born in Judea.

@Sapphire, he is saying such a thing is a poor argument, and you agree with him by.... disagreeing.

EDIT:
This is getting confusing

[Gank]

No, I was pointing out the only possible way you could halfway convincingly argue that he was a jew as a christian was by taking that line. Due to the incompatabilitys between Judaism and Christianity on the issue of jesus you cant claim he is jewish as it would be denying your own faith.

[Sapphire]

Perhaps before you continue you should speak to a Messianic Jew???

[Gank]

Ah, the group also known as "Christians who dont want to get kicked out of Israel" They arent Jews, theyre Christians, despite whatever they call themselves. Perhaps you'd better go look up the word Christian?

besides we're talking about mainstream Judaism here, not the beliefs of a couple of hundred thousand.

[Sapphire]

Perhaps you should.  Christians, who subscribe to believing in Christ, also have to subscribe to the roots of Judaism (See Old Testament...its Jewish writings)

[Gank]

Do you even know what you're talking about? Christianity is an offshot of Judaism which claims Jesus was god. There are no other significent differences. Those who believe Jesus was god are christians, those who believe he was not arent. Judaism says he is not, therefore if you believe he is God you cannot be of the Judaic faith. You can call yourself the hindu-buddist alliance for Jesus if you like, you're still a ****** christian.

[Sapphire]

You didn't answer my question way up there^^  

Yes or no? Were Gentiles allowed to teach their paganism in the temples and synogogs? If the answer is no.....then how is it that Jesus taught there? Answer: because he was of the Jewish faith.

Enough said.  

If you want to continue this line of argument, please read the Bible first.

[Gank]

dbl pst

[Ghostavo]

So you consider god to be jewish?

Interesting...

[Gank]

Umm what the ****?

John 11:
51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.

54 Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his disciples

I dont think its me who should read the bible

[Sapphire]

Keep reading...  where the people were wondering if Jesus was going to return for the Passover.  Why would Jesus come to partake of Passover....the celebration of the deliverance of the Jews from Egypt....unless he was a Jew?

[vyper]

This is like watching lepers wrestle.

[Getter Robo G]

Everything you need to know in life you can learn from South Park...
Thanks to them I learn that the Jews killed Jesus, and that Mel Gibson is #%$ing INSANE! Just kidding!

Didn't Chris Rock say Jesus was black (Which I can totally believe as Jesus came from South Central Galilee)(SP?) The Romans were lucky we has into that peace love thing, otherwise he would have put a cap in their azz...

As for these evangeliests (cause they sure as hell are NOT missionaries) if any of them are female, young and hot I would gladly teach them the "Missionary Position" (there is that better Aldo?)

  U know... When I first discovered the joys of self pleasure, I was in bible school and instead of making shadow boxes to scripture I was thinking about bending sister Sarah over the alter and make her pray like that. I even had a good line, if a priest came up and asked , "what in the name of God are you doing?!?" I would say, "Missionary work father, praise be to GOD!"  (Not your typical youngster was I?)...

Regardless from that point on I got a thing for young nuns... (OOO Sally Fields was sooo hot then)...

[Gank]

Originally posted by Sapphire
Keep reading...  where the people were wondering if Jesus was going to return for the Passover.  Why would Jesus come to partake of Passover....the celebration of the deliverance of the Jews from Egypt....unless he was a Jew?

Theres no point in keeping reading, it refutes your point that the jews let jesus preach And how can you still argue hes a jew when you've already said hes not?????????????

Getter, youre one filthy ****er

[karajorma]

I've never understood guys with a thing for nuns. The get up just does nothing for me. Nurses and french maids are where it's really at