[mitac]

Swamp, your cause may be good, but if that's just not what he is or wants to be, then it's no use. You don't become a 'hippie' over night, and in particular not because some guy on the web told you to do so.

Though I think Lib's got an impression on what could help.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
My advice would be:

1º-Stop going to church. I´m not saying you should stop being a christian, i just say that you need to see new horizons, and church is pretty much in the way of that.
2º-Start getting out at night, go to a pub or disco, listen to music and drink some beer.
3º-Stop paying attention to what jerks like George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh say.

Pfaaa, bull****.
-I don't see why spending an hour at the church would prevent him from doing anything else.
-You don't make ( good ) friends in a pub or a disco if you don't come with other friends who will introduce you to other people. You get friends in your close surroundings first.
-Why, he has the hobbies he wants.

4º Lose the Sunday church christian outfits. Burn the closet in your backyard, and buy new clothes. Just remember to leave your parents home when you do.

Yeah. I ignore the stupid parts, of course

5º Lose some weight, let your hair grow, and get a new hair style. The christian look doesn´t cut it. Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.

Yeah, tho the glasses aren't really a pb.

6º Make new friends. If you do nº2 often enough, you are bound to meet new people. Once you have new friends, dating gets a lot easier.

see comment about 2°

7º Get a drivers license, buy a car, and get out more. Forget about staying home night after night sitting in front of your computer screen.

Well, yeah, actually

8º Get a tattoo, an earring, a piercing, whatever. You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude. Doing either of those things would show your parents you need change in your life. It´s not about the tattoo, or the ear ring, per se. It´s about you doing what you feel confortable with, and not what your parents want you to.

Hmm, I think "WTF?" resumes it well. I mean, look at him. Changing his style doesn't mean he has to do stupid things. There's some things that you do, and things that you don't. No matter what Lib does, there will be things that won't do it for him, coz that's not his style. A piercing? Being casual doesn't mean going overboard. Perciengs are "cool", huh? No need for ****s like that. I think he considers all that seriously, don't start the silly jokes.

From what i´ve gathered, that´s your biggest problem. You have to convince your parents to leave you be, and do what YOU want to do. As soon as you start feeling confortable with who you really are, things will get easier. [/B]

I think he's old enough to handle his parents.

Lol, that was funny
The only thing libs needs, for now, imho, are two things:
1 ) he needs to feel more comfortable, yeah. He doesn't need to be told what he should wear, if he should get a nail in the nose or a rose on the left bottock, he just needs to try some stuff and see if he feels more comfortable in those.
2) he needs to be more loose on his opinions. If his real life chats goes like they go here, people will feel alienated coz even if he's entitled to his opinions, he insists to much on them ( see his opnion about non married women in that other thread ). If he talks like that IRL, well, yeah, people will feel antagonized, and will break away whenever they can.

Sorry to talk about you in the third person, Liberator, I went on and own thinking I was replying to Swamp Thing whereas I started writing what I was thinking almost right away.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.

I like guys with glasses. In certain cases anyway. It somehow adds a little bit of class to one's appearance. I know quite a lot of girls who share my opinion on this.

[Nico]

I will say something very silly, but very, very true too, so please, please forgive me.
Glasses are cool, but, hem, when you're doing intimate things with people, you know ( ), they really, really spoil the fun coz you have to remove them and you see crap. And that REALLY sucks, so lenses are much better on that regard.

Stop gazing at me.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Nico
I will say something very silly, but very, very true too, so please, please forgive me.
Glasses are cool, but, hem, when you're doing intimate things with people, you know ( ), they really, really spoil the fun coz you have to remove them and you see crap. And that REALLY sucks, so lenses are much better on that regard.

Stop gazing at me.

TCO wears glasses, so we know Though he can see just fine up close. His are not reading glasses so that's a plus

...

What?! Ow, grow up and get a girlfriend before you look at me like that.

[Genryu]

Giirrrrrrlllllzzzzzzzz.........

[Unknown Target]

1º-Stop going to church. I´m not saying you should stop being a christian, i just say that you need to see new horizons, and church is pretty much in the way of that.

You don't even have to do that, just stop making Church your life, and make it more as a suppelement.

2º-Start getting out at night, go to a pub or disco, listen to music and drink some beer.

Hell, just listen to music. Go out to a bar and sit around and look for ladies, what have you.

3º-Stop paying attention to what jerks like George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh say.

You can do that, but if you really want to stay uninformed, keep it going like that. But be warned, you're really limiting your opurtunities (how the hell do you spell that word?).

4º Lose the Sunday church christian outfits. Burn the closet in your backyard, and buy new clothes. Just remember to leave your parents home when you do.

Yes, dear Gods in heaven, please do this.

5º Lose some weight, let your hair grow, and get a new hair style. The christian look doesn´t cut it. Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.

I personally think with about 20 pounds less you'd look like Gordon Freeman

6º Make new friends. If you do nº2 often enough, you are bound to meet new people. Once you have new friends, dating gets a lot easier.

Hell, if you're unsure about what to do, do what I do whenever I go to the states: see someone, walk up to them, say hi. That's all it takes.

7º Get a drivers license, buy a car, and get out more. Forget about staying home night after night sitting in front of your computer screen.

Hehe, I agree

8º Get a tattoo, an earring, a piercing, whatever. You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude. quote]

Sure, make him a cliche'. Honest to the Gods, I'm ready to shoot all those "punk" posers that don't have a real reason to be what they're trying to be.

[Tiara]

Sure, make him a cliche'. Honest to the Gods, I'm ready to shoot all those "punk" posers that don't have a real reason to be what they're trying to be.

Dude, a single small tattoo or earing doesn't make him a "punk" poser

That said, I hate earrings on guys. Any piercing really.

[Unknown Target]

I was referring to this line:

You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude.

Why does he have to be the ultra-lame and overused "rebel without a cause"?

Tattoos and piercings don't make him a "rebel without a cause," him actually being that does. However (no offense Lib), I just don't think that would ever be him.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Tiara
What?! Ow, grow up and get a girlfriend before you look at me like that.

I'm grown up enough
And if I don't have a girlfriend, it's coz I don't want to, for many reasons, but the one I like to give is that one:
I have many friends, surprisingly, many TRUE friends. And they've all had their shares of "love stories", to an extent that my surroundings seems to be a soap opera. And that led to an incredible number of small or larger crisis, JUST BECAUSE OF GIRLS, the ones where a guy beats up another, or the one where a guy threatens to jump from a bridge ( bloody idiot, never seen such a poser ) etc etc. From all those people I've known for, pfeww, 7 years now, there's only ONE couple left standing, every others crumbled after a while, even those you'd think they wouldn't ( last year, one of the two couple I had classified in the " ok, now that should be ok for them" category broke, to everybody's surprise, might I add ). During all those seven years, there was one guy, the only one, that didn't have any problem whatsoever, and that was me, and why? Coz I didn't run after girls. Let me tell you, I've had occasions, but I didn't take them. I think I'm quite good looking, and I also think my personality is good enough ( I'm not such a dick in real life ), to the point that I've been asked out by girls ( you gotta admit that doesn't happen that often, the girl asking the guy out ). Ok, in one occasion, I turned the girl down because of some misunderstanding while being all ready and happy to be with her , and I really really hated myself for that later on ( she's a cool girl ), but usually, I always see more bothers than benefits in being with someone.
I have an all made sentence when I'm being asked why I don't have a girlfriend: "too troublesome".
Don't take me wrong, I like girls, I'm friend with many girls, I don't look down on people who have girlfriends, I see all the good that can come from a relationship, etc etc, tho. But I don't feel pityful being alone, I feel quite comfy actually, so I keep it that way.
Voila

[Tiara]

I'm not reading that.

PARAGRAPHS ARE YOUR FRIEND!

:p

[Nico]

Pah, I empty my poor heart before you, and you don't care? You monster!

[Unknown Target]

I read it. It's truly the most  pornographic and violent thing I've ever read. Boobies go flying everywhere, things get put in places that I didn't know existed, truly, an exciting read. You should read it







I'm lying to make her read it, too...

[Nico]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
I read it. It's truly the most  pornographic and violent thing I've ever read. Boobies go flying everywhere, things get put in places that I didn't know existed, truly, an exciting read. You should read it [/size]

I can write that too if you want, you'd be shocked at my pornographic cult... imagination

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Unknown Target

I'm lying to make her read it, too...

A little tip;





















If you lie, don't tell anyone that you're lying.

[Unknown Target]

If you lie, don't tell anyone that you're lying.

Duh

[Charismatic]

Nico and Swamp thing, if im reading this right, please stop with the anti-christian remarks. You offending me.
Thank you.

[BlackDove]

And who the **** are you?

[Nico]

Originally posted by Charismatic
Nico and Swamp thing, if im reading this right, please stop with the anti-christian remarks. You offending me.
Thank you.

There's not a single anti-christian remark in any of my posts, so get offended all you want.

[Liberator]

The problem with clubs is they are noisy and very crowded and I would probably have a panic attack.  

Even when I go to see a movie, I keep seeing images of either me getting blown through the window and all of a sudden I'm engaged in a Power Rangersesque brawl complete with 20 story battle robots or conversly me calling in a napalm strike...