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Offline vyper

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Shooting People - Iraq
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=1WVICQ0XU4FKWCRBAEOCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=666347

[q]A senior U.S. Marine Corps general who said it was "fun to shoot some people" should have chosen his words more carefully but will not be disciplined, military officials say.[/q]

Now, it may seem wrong on the surface, but read the rest of it...

[q]"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said during a panel discussion. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."[/q]

I'd say he's probably right.
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Offline Taristin

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People really like to take things out of context.
If I was taken seriously all the times I said things like that, I'd've been in trouble loong ago. People need to chill out, I think.
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Well, depends if they were trying to shoot him, I guess.

I can understand how he could say such a thing without thinking, but I guess it would have been better to say 'It was hard not to feel some kind of retribution in shooting them'.

 

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C'mon. That's why he's in the military. The military doesn't teach you eloquence in your wording. It's not there to make you politically correct. It teaches you how to fight, and kill.
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It doesnt teach you to enjoy it.

 

Offline Taristin

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No, for some that's an added bonus. :p

And that's the thing. Alot of people joined up to kill. After 9/11, alot of people wanted retribution. And they're trying to justify it, now.
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Most countries put people who find it fun to shoot people in jail you know.

 

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Oh? So they pre-emptively lock you up, even if you have never committed a crime, but you think it'd be fun?
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Err, no, this isnt minority report.

 

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Look Gank, you know I'm usually on the liberal side but if you saw some asshole you know was slapping his wife about for x many years, now acting like a wide boy and you had full combat gear on.... come on now.
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I suppose my concern is, how did the guy the know which guys slapped their wives and which didn't?

If we are talking GI mentality here, then possibly he thought all arabs beat their wives etc?

I'd like a little more clarification, that's all :)

 

Offline Gank

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And how exactly does this guy know the people hes shooting have been slapping their wives around for years? Its bollox vyper, a poor attempt to justify getting enjoyment from the killing of others.

 

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That's the point I was trying to make, but going through a different route. :p

I wasn't justifying his pleasure killing, but trying to explain that people are too critical of stupid remarks.
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You can pretty much say wtih certainty the Taliban treated their women like ****. Hell most of Afghanistan still has the same culture.

Governments change, people don't.
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So how does he know when its fun and when it isnt?

 

Offline Flipside

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The question is, I suppose, did these deaths take place in combat with people who they assumed slap their wives, or did they shoot people because they assumed they slapped their wives?

 

Offline Taristin

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When he's getting an erection every time he pulls the trigger. He's enjoying it.
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Or maybe they're testing the Gay Gas :nervous:

Seriously though, it was a really stupid, thoughtless comment to make, brimming over with assumption and indoctrination, but it was also a strangely honest glimpse into the mind of some of the people out there.

That scares me.

 
 

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As I feared, one-sided Quasar....