[Taristin]

Heh, it can bother you, but, living here, it scares the crap out of me.

[Nico]

I can understand, indeed...

[Bobboau]

I've been sued, for $50,000, and I lost

[Jetmech Jr.]

****ing cu-nt.

Young said she believes that the girls should not have been running from door to door late at night.

"Something bad could have happened to them," she said.

Yeah, like being set upon by some ***** with a serious case of paranoia.

To reiterate my previous feelings, I am SO GOD-DAMNED ASHAMED of my country.

[Nico]

I like your quote, let me modify it some:
"something bad could have happened, so I sued them"
Lol.

[01010]

Originally posted by Nico


Only in USA, yeah, but I have to add, I think only in USA I'd see 18 years old girls coming at my place to offer cookies. that's a nice thought Guess it will never happen again tho

Some people just don't know a good thing when they got it huh?

[.::Tin Can::.]

Well, another Stella Award to give out.

[Rictor]

I say they let the conviction pass, take their punishment and just say thank you.

Why? Double jeopardy. You can't be convicted of the same offence twice. Which means they would have free reign to terrorise the woman for as long as they live, without any legal consequences. And she would deserve every minute of it. Two 18 year olds spend their time baking you cakes, and you sue them!? Sorry, but thats just evil.

[Fineus]

Out of interest, why can't you be convicted of the same offence twice?

I mean - say  you break into someones home and stab them with a knife. You're convicted (but released / let off / whatever..). You do it again. Are you saying you can't be convicted for the second crime?

Also, couldn't they be convicted of something else (harassment perhaps, or some other loophole) if anything else happened?

[Swamp_Thing]

Double jeopardy means you can´t be tried for the same crime twice. If you are tried for killing a man and serve jail time, and that man happens to be alive, you can kill him without any problems because you were already tried.

In your example Kalfireth, those are not the same crime. They are similar crimes, but the victims are not the same.

Double jeopardy only works for situations where you are found guilty. If you are found not guilty, they can still take you to trial if new evidence is uncovered.

[Kie99]

What if I mugged someone and stole there wallet, then I got 6 Months in jail for it, could I go and mug that person again after I'd served my time?

[SadisticSid]

Originally posted by Rictor
I say they let the conviction pass, take their punishment and just say thank you.

Why? Double jeopardy. You can't be convicted of the same offence twice. Which means they would have free reign to terrorise the woman for as long as they live, without any legal consequences. And she would deserve every minute of it. Two 18 year olds spend their time baking you cakes, and you sue them!? Sorry, but thats just evil.

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
Double jeopardy means you can´t be tried for the same crime twice. If you are tried for killing a man and serve jail time, and that man happens to be alive, you can kill him without any problems because you were already tried.

In your example Kalfireth, those are not the same crime. They are similar crimes, but the victims are not the same.

Double jeopardy only works for situations where you are found guilty. If you are found not guilty, they can still take you to trial if new evidence is uncovered.

Who taught you guys this rubbish? Double jeopardy means you can't be tried for the same crime more than once, regardless of the outcome of the trial. Some people are trying to dismiss the rule if significant new evidence is found, but IIRC this hasn't happened in the UK yet. If you try to kill someone twice, then it's two crimes, not one, each for which you can be tried once.

[Rictor]

Well, apparently Tee Vee has led me astray yet again.
Damn!

[aldo_14]

Incidentally, in Scotland there is a 'not proven' verdict which allows retrial if new evidence is found.

And SadisticSid is right; double jeopardy means a single crime, not offence - the point is that you risk someone being scapegoated by being repeatedly tried for the same crime over and over again until they are convicetd by a sympathetic jury (or simply to keep them held behind bars).  It also means a trial has to have sufficient evidence to be worthwhile.

Apparently, in 2003 the rules against double jeopardy were relaced by blunkett (uk).

[Nuclear1]

Holy ****.

This is why I'm sick of our judicial system.

[pyro-manic]

What the f*ck is wrong with your judges? Are they that f*cking stupid that they think that a load of bollocks like this can be valid EVER??????


For f**k's sake.....

Edit: **** it, start the revolution now. All you Americans, go and re-found your country. Get yourself an assault rifle (you can get 'em easily now the ban's been repealed), go out and shoot all the ****ing stupid people, and put some intelligent people in positions involving actual decision-making...


Wheee! Isn't nihilism fun?

[TrashMan]

You know, I talked about this caase with my sister and her husband (both lawyers)... they were stunned as you were...

[Stealth]

Originally posted by kietotheworld
What if I mugged someone and stole there wallet, then I got 6 Months in jail for it, could I go and mug that person again after I'd served my time?

yes, you could, but you'd get tried and put in jail again... because they're different crimes...

there's nothing sinister about double jeapardy... basically if someone is accused of murder, and found guilty, and you serve your time... you can't be accused of that same murder again:  you've been found guilty of the crime already.  

also, anyone remember that burglar who robbed a couple's garage while they were on vacation, and he broke his leg while he was in the garage, and couldn't get out, and so he was stuck there for like 4 days until the couple got home, and he sued them, and won ?

EDIT: wrong wording

[Arraxis]

Originally posted by Stealth
also, anyone remember that burglar who robbed a couple's garage while they were on vacation, and he broke his leg while he was in the garage, and couldn't get out, and so he was stuck there for like 4 days until the couple got home, and he sued them, and won ?

WTF? What kind of a judge and jury would actually side with this guy? I mean, do they only let idiots become jurors and judges?

This makes me want to get into law just so I can put a stop to **** like this!

[Thorn]

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