[vyper]

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/24.html

[Deepblue]

Dude, the bills that were put through were:
A. Sponsored by Democrats.
B. Shot down during a preliminary vote. Only 2 people voted in favor.

It's not even close to being a bother.

[vyper]

A. Neo-Liberals are as bad as Neo-Cons. You just don't see them coming.
B. It proves the will is there.

[Rictor]

vyper, I seriously don't think a draft is viable. They just won't be able to pull it off.

[Deepblue]

No, they won't. And it is not neccessary either, not by a long shot. And the reason the bill was sponsored in the first place (and was timed such) was so that claims of "Bush is bringing back the draft!" could be backed up sort of by pointing to these bills. It was purely politically motivated.

[Clave]

I can't read all that, can't you summarise it one word or less?

[vyper]

Originally posted by Rictor
vyper, I seriously don't think a draft is viable. They just won't be able to pull it off.

And why is that? The US has imperial-like interests on a global scale, and considering the loss of political influence they are suffering they will increasingly rely on military resources to retain any kind of hyperpower standing.

The US public will slowly be convinced through a media induced hysteria that things are actually getting more dangerous every day for the US and it's people. (Which is not entirely false - it's getting more dangerous for those who have power - the average joe who is below upper-middle class is going to be shafted whoever is in power)

Remember - Everything seems impossible until someone does it.

[Deepblue]

*sighs*

[vyper]

If that's the best you can come up with I'm well impressed.

[Deepblue]

Why should I come up with anything to counter something so insubstantial? It would be a pointless waste of time.

[Ford Prefect]

The US public will slowly be convinced through a media induced hysteria that things are actually getting more dangerous every day for the US and it's people.

The force of the media works in all directions, though. They will suggest whatever will terrify viewers into watching. If people are talking about a draft, they will use that just as much as they use the threat of terrorism, regardless, as we have seen in recent years, of the rumors' veracity.

[aldo_14]

If there's a 9/11 equivalent event, a draft would become a real possibility; all the fearmongering that goes on, comprehenisve as it is, can;t match up to an actual attack.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Clave
I can't read all that, can't you summarise it one word or less?

Is 'Bull****' one word or two?

[Deepblue]

Apt.

[NGTM-1R]

And why is that?

Because the return of the draft would be the equivalent of the President and the entire U.S. Congress signing a political suicide note and jumping into the the nearest scandal involving rape.

They'd never get re-elected. They'd lose their power. They don't want to lose their power.

Simple enough?

[vyper]

Not really since it's clear the democrats will win the next election anyway. Don't forget these people are strangely idealists more than politicians.

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by vyper
Don't forget these people are strangely idealists more than politicians.

Ahahahahahahaha...

Riiiight.

[vyper]

No actually you'll find neo-cons are convinced of an ideology and are doing everything they can to implement it. I'm not saying they don't employ some very good spin doctors and advisors, all I'l saying is at their heart they're fanatics of a certain ideology.

[Bobboau]

the draft will not be brought back, we would likely use nukes befor accepting a draft

[vyper]

Ahuh... out of all the arguments so far Bob that's gotta be the wildest.