[Genryu]

Clicky.

Right now, I'm trying very much not to bash the US government upside down. Since Kazan's back, and with Rictor lurking, I think I'll let them do it, they're so much more experienced at this than me
 

Still, sad to see than even China is doing better on human rights than the USA (or at least its government).

[pyro-manic]

I'm at a loss for words (I could string together a lot of expletives, but that wouldn't accomplish much)...

This is, uh, maybe a tad hypocritical? That man gets more and more idiotic every day...

[Ford Prefect]

Well well, the neanderthals are becoming desperate. The US must know that the UN is going to give them about the same look that the court gave FOX when they sued Al Franken.

[Janos]

wtf DEATH TO AMERICA

[aldo_14]

I am literally struck dumb.

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by Genryu
Still, sad to see than even China is doing better on human rights than the USA (or at least its government).

*refrains laughter*

Ah, hell...

Seriously... I'll sit this one out.

[Jetmech Jr.]

...have I mentioned before that I'm ashamed of my Government?

[Kie99]

I'll refrain from commenting on this thread, I don't like being flamed.

[Andreas]

I can't wait to see what Kazan is gonna say to this...

[Genryu]

Frankly, I'd appreciate it better if people expressed their opinions, even if it's to flame me, the artcile, China, or America, since I think this is important enough for everybody to have their say.
FFS, Bush&Co don't stop telling us how much they do fro Freedom, and then deliver something like this. If someone has an intelligent opinion about this, even in a flame form, I'd like to see it.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Ai No Koriida
I can't wait to see what Kazan is gonna say to this...

Something involving the word 'christofacist' and capital letters with angry red font, perhaps.

[Kazan]

how about something involving the words


the religious right are a bunch of hypocritical extremists who's "Solution" to every problem involved A) forcing other people to do things and B) total bull**** beliefs

they need their religion out of our government from now on and we should CONSIDER letting them not have to kiss our asses for the next millenia


no.. they should still kiss our asses for the next millenia


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ps: aldo
 Fascism (in Italian, fascismo), capitalized, refers to the right-wing authoritarian political movement which ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini. The word fascism (uncapitalized) has come to mean any political stance or system of government resembling Mussolini's, as further discussed below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism

the finer points

    * exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
    * uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
    * engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
    * engages in corporatism,[1] (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=219369)
    * implements or is a totalitarian regime.

now if you don't recognize a rising resemblance to those primary charactistics then you're not paying attention

and it's being done under tha auspices of fundamentalist christianity

[Kazan]

oh here is a good article - read the paragraph just before the text changes font and then read all of the second font

http://thewitness.org/agw/webster012605.html


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oh.. btw i just cited a CHRISTIAN source who is united with me and others in the fight agaisnt the **************s

[aldo_14]

As me old mum always said to me, "empty vessels make most noise".

[WMCoolmon]

Still, sad to see than even China is doing better on human rights than the USA (or at least its government).

By granting a mother the right to choose, you are depriving the foetus of the right to live.
By granting a foetus the right to live, you are depriving the mother of the right to choose.

Let the debate begin.

[Clave]

That'll show those liberals who want a better life for everyone!

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon


By granting a mother the right to choose, you are depriving the foetus of the right to live.
By granting a foetus the right to live, you are depriving the mother of the right to choose.

Let the debate begin.

Problem is we've done this so many times.......  technically, though, in the former case you are only depriving the foetus of the right to live (skirting over the issue of whether a foetus is considered alive) if the mother chooses to make that choice.  

Choice by itself isn't dangerous; the consequences of that choice made can be.

(my thoughts below v v)

However, IMO, the negativity of those consequences in the case of abortion is something which is largely determined by the persons individual beliefs and not by a neutral, unbiased source such as simple scientific evidence.  Surely by allowing the choice, what we are doing is simply allowing people to express their own beliefs?  I mean, if someone truly believes abortion is wrong, then they won't have one; if they don't, then they may have one.

What could possibly be wrong with that?

[Goober5000]

Pre-Civil War America was half-slave and half-free using exactly the same logic.  People thought that was a workable, if not ideal, solution at the time.  Now slavery is universally recognized as morally reprehensible.

Abortion opponents see the abortion debate in the same way.

[vyper]

They didn't listen to us on Iraq, let's not listen to them on this.


Seems only fair.

[Flipside]

Thing is for me, it's always been like the movies, if you don't want to watch a movie, or don't agree with it's contents, walk past the door, that's what your feet are for.

I feel pretty much the same way about abortion, I wouldn't tell people what movies they should be watching, but I'm intelligent enough to make up my mind for myself