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Offline Grug

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*engage sick sense of humour*

I was thinking this could work for debris fields and ship debris after they blowup.

Human bodies.

It would be chilling to the bone to fly through a just blown up cruiser and have a few corpses bounce off your hull.

If the SCP guys got there animation code working, you could have a few kickers right after a large ship detonates.

Imagine jumping into a debris field of a fleet with pieces of ships and people...

Spooky.

 

Offline Kie99

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Alpha 2:  Command, where's the SJ OMGWTFBBQ that Alpha 1 was supposed to destroy
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*suddenly a person with a Shivan stuck in his head hits Alpha 1's fighter, player screaMS and runs out of room*

*Shivans appear from nowhere and rip apart Alpha 2's fighter, 80 Shivan juggernauts jump in.  Alpha 1 returns  5 Minutes later there is a debris field with a single Ares fighter flying out of it.*
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Offline aldo_14

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Venoms HTL ezechiel had a pilot as debris, IIRC......

 

Offline Grug

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Really?

Kewl....

What about small clouds of blood.

Surely theres a better way to do it than the 'poofs' aka like in the nebula.
Something like fog would be kewl, but dynamic, so ships could be stained and leave a skimming trail behind them...

 

Offline aldo_14

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I...er.... think you're taking this idea a bit far.

 

Offline TopAce

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Blood? Don't. FS is user-friendly. Bodies? What if you hit them? It will be like in X-wing Alliance, they will explode. What if it only disappeared? No, it looks stupid. Blood? [Go back to the beginning of the post]
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Offline NGTM-1R

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There is a POF of a Shivan floating around somewhere, and it comes in both living and non-living varieties. I think I have it on my hard drive, but I'll have to check.

However, the readme file for that Shivan makes a good point: consider the size of most FS ships relative to a person. At MINIMUM, an FS fighter is 20 meters long. People are so small, you're just not going to see them much.
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Offline Grug

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I guess size would be a problem, hence why you have them cluttered together in groups.
@TopAce, hence why I said if they had animation system implemented. What would be even better would be a ragdoll system akin to Doom3, HalfLife2 or FarCry...

Bloods probably too far, but it would be nice if there where dynamic nebula clouds around the place.

You could even hide in them.

 

Offline Drew

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they would bounce of your shields.



duh.
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Offline WeatherOp

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I guess you could make them have debris to, where when you shot e'm, the torso and head, and Butt and legs fly of in different directions.


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Offline Nuke

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who wants to see a whole pilot floating in space, its more fun to se half a pilot floating in space :D
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Offline Grug

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lol true.
High res textures too, so you can see the terror in their faces of their last dieing moments... :p

Maybe if you wanted the half a corpse thing, it could have something like the damage on ships etc its blood coloured, so its drifting off with blood spilling into the void of space.

What would be funny was if there was a large group of them arranged in a sky diving formation. :p Like in a giant circle.
Maybe you could make a race level then, where you have to fly through the rings of people in space suits.
But if you miss and hit the sides a few people bounce of the hull and go flying off into the void... hehehe :p

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Offline Drew

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realistically, corpses would explode in space.
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Offline aldo_14

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Actually, they would freeze more than anything else; sudden decompression wouldn't break the skin or explode, etc. (http://www.jamesoberg.com/myth.html)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2005, 06:06:03 pm by 181 »

 

Offline Flaser

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Neither anwer is good.

First off, the pilots's suit can probably work as a spacesuit too.

Otherwise - no they won't immediatelly freeze in space. I already I explained that a million times so I won't go into that this time...
They won't explode - at least the body itself. However due to decompression they could suffer fatal lung rupture.
....which is moot since they will die of suffocation soon, if the pressure shock didn't knock them out.
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So where's Frank Poole? ;)
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Offline FireCrack

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Originally posted by aldo_14
Actually, they would freeze more than anything else; sudden decompression wouldn't break the skin or explode, etc. (http://www.jamesoberg.com/myth.html)


that site is so inacurate in some areas, well, not inacurat but for example

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No-gravity myth #2: For those fascinated by the possibilities of "war in space, Earthside analogies have been stretched beyond the breaking point. The oft-repeated idea of "shooting down a satellite" falls into that category because a satellite struck by a weapon would retain its speed and hence would stay in orbit, dead or alive, whole or in pieces.


Now i personaly dont think that when anyone says "Shooting down satilites" that they mean the satilites actualy going to fall, it's simply a term that evolved from earlier flying vehicles.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Flaser

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Blow Up

Special-effects wizards love space vacuum scenes. In Total Recall (set on Mars) and a dozen other Hollywood space westerns, movie makers take the standard gory approach of painfully puffing torsos and grapelike bursting eyeballs to show what happens to a human thrown out into open space. Such an imaginary fate is enough, wrote veteran spacewalker Michael Collins in his lyrical autobiography Carrying the Fire, to make a spaceman think long, encouraging thoughts about "the little old ladies and their gluepots" who assemble each NASA spacesuit by hand.

But one Hollywood director, Stanley Kubrick, was much more accurate about this (and so much else) in his 1968 cult classic, 2001: A Space Odyssey. Deep-space voyager Bowman outwits the psychotic autopilot HAL by jumping into an open airlock without his helmet and then boarding the ship to lobotomize the mutinous microchip. Actually, author Arthur C. Clarke got it right first, back in the 1950s: He knew that the physical toughness of the human body allows it to resist deformation even in a full vacuum. A human will suffocate and double over in pain from the bends -- and lapse into unconsciousness in just seven seconds -- but at least the eyeballs won't pop out.

"What you should expect is to fart a lot," notes a space-medicine expert at Cape Canaveral.

In a spaceflight tragedy in 1971, three Soviet cosmonauts went to vacuum in shirt sleeves during an accidental depressurization during their return to Earth. Recently released top-secret Soviet space films show them receiving emergency resuscitation after landing. They had gone without air too long -- about 30 minutes -- to be revived, but their bodies were not physically deformed by the exposure to vacuum.


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Read the link aldo_14 before writting about it - or at least do a proper quote.
It doesn't mention freezing anywhere, and rightly so since it won't happen.
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Flaser


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Read the link aldo_14 before writting about it - or at least do a proper quote.
It doesn't mention freezing anywhere, and rightly so since it won't happen.


I read more than one source, y'know.  And I said 'more likely to freeze than explode', which is correct.  What I did not say, was 'freeze to death'.

  I am fairly confident that a body floating in space is more likely to freeze, than to explode.  I believe floating about at potential temperatures of absolute zero can do that.

 

Offline FireCrack

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The low pressure wouild make your blood boil before it froze.
actualy, mabye not.
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