[StratComm]

If your build is old enough, then yes.  These can be used without problems in the animation-enabled builds, but need some editing with anything that doesn't support it.

And the idea behind the .tbm files is that you don't have to add it to your tbl files.  Just stick the tbm in data/tables and it will add the ships at the end.  If it still doesn't work, open the tbm file with notepad and delete any lines following a turret declaration besides $default pbank.

[Descenter]

thanks.......(sigh).......(starts combing throught the .tbl)....

[Rand al Thor]

I like them . The textures remind me of Babylon 5 EA ships, especially the Hyperion. Which is also good.

Hope to see them in a campaign soon otherwise I probably wont see them in action.

Good work!

[KappaWing]

Originally posted by Rand al'Thor
Hope to see them in a campaign soon otherwise I probably wont see them in action.

You'll see them in action soon enough.

[Descenter]

And actually im working on a campaign to implement these ship in with the storyline, which takes place 4 years after the Freespace 2 main campaign, but since im the only one working on this campaign, however, it might take awhile.  But, just an FYI.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, that fix above with the turrets helps.  It now plays well again.

[StratComm]

When 3.6.6 gets released, you'll want to put that back in.  It doesn't make a ton of difference on these ships, but there are a couple of turrets that should be turned around and all of the barrels should be depressed by default.  Glad it works though

[NGTM-1R]

I'm considering use the Hyperion as a replacement for my table-modded Aeolus, but need to see about its antifighter coverage...

[Ransom]

These are awesome. I'll definitely be using these soon.

[Descenter]

So when's the next few coming out?

[StratComm]

This one's no where near as improved, but thanks to Grimloq I've got the Raynor up to an acceptable level of detail.  I didn't go to the same paneling extent that he did on his, as I felt the chunky shape is an asset to this model.  The much-malaigned turrets are gone, though, and I've also pieced together a new missile turret.

[Ferret]

That's a cool looking turret. You know what? That would look very good sitting atop of my house.

[FireCrack]

an armoured box launcher dosnt make as much sense as a VLS but i'm n ot gonna bash your model for realism issues.


Anyways, what i realy want to say is that that turret could use bob's animation code nicely.

[StratComm]

Originally posted by FireCrack
an armoured box launcher dosnt make as much sense as a VLS but i'm n ot gonna bash your model for realism issues.


Anyways, what i realy want to say is that that turret could use bob's animation code nicely.

I'm using Bob's animation code to initially depress turrets, but what are you thinking of to animate it?  Doors?

Also, the reason for gimbaled box launchers is more the game than the design.  I'd use fixed tubes in any place that a missile sould logically fire straight ahead (or straight out, anyway) from a tube.  But when the turret is supposed to give a wide field of coverage, it looks pretty stupid to have a missile come skimming out of the hull 20 meters away from the launch tube because it turned immediately toward its target rather than arcing out of its tube.  Proper missile tracking from turrets would be a nice addition for the SCP to bring us, but the box launchers work in a pinch.

[NGTM-1R]

I liked the original colors more, myself...

[Grimloq]

Yeah... It looks very nice (Despite the fact it was slightly based off one I made a while ago ) but the blue streak is... >_>

[StratComm]

I didn't like the way it lapped over the band from the engines so I've reworked the textures back there a little.  The blue band stays though.

[Ransom]

I think the blue streak is awesome. Makes them more interesting. I'm not really a fan of the usual Terran shades of grey approach.

[StratComm]

Yeah the problem with the blue stripe on the back is that because of the shape of the model back there the initial cut I made for that band was offset from the other part in a really funny way.  I took it off and it looked lacking, so instead of trying to line up with the band below I made the band on top run front-to-back.  I'd make it cover the other texture, but the color is by definition the same texture as the one it rests on, so to speak, and making another blue texture for two polygons just wasn't worth it.  The ultimate idea is that you should be able to change the color splash with texture replacement on any of these ships, at least initially among colors that I'll ultimately provide with the models.

EDIT: I just realized what texture I changed that has people thinking it's so different.  It's the bridge.  Everything is at least close to the same texture as was on the original, save that one area ant the maps where I swapped out the terran debris texture with a proper one.  I've never liked the debris texture on anything, and since it's such a royal pain to work with I just stripped it off the model completely.

[Thrilla]

Stratcomm can you send me a turretless raynor in an .rar file in .cob format?  I don't have it anymore.

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[StratComm]

This one or the original?  I should still have all of them somewhere; let me see what I can dig up.