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Anti-gravity: why don´t they research it?
Yesterday i was watching this TV documentary about anti-gravity, and zero energy engines and batteries, and other sci-fi theoretics, and how the visionaries of this part of science were being treated as nutcases and excentrics. So i started to study the concept.
And i´m amazed as to how this revolutionary technology could revolutionize the world as we know it. Engines that could run for years with +100 horse power, powered by a spent 9 volt battery, or anti-gravity devices that levitate objects using low electrical currents, stuff that could change the world as we know it.
But apparently the main stream scientists aren´t having any. They see these people as nutties and dreamers. But weren´t all ground breaking technologies viewed as dreams, before?
So why isn´t this getting the attention that it should? Why are such revolutionary concepts only being researched by backyard scientists? Garage scientists? Why don´t they research it properly? With real funding?
It is said that the only entities looking at this are the military. The Philadelphia Experiment was part of that research.
I sure would like to see this stuff getting the attention it deserves. The possibilities are enourmous. It sure blew my mind.

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Big oil companies & their close ties to governments. 'nuff said. Same goes for fusion. They can't have anything threating their profits, of course, at least not before we have another energy crisis. :rolleyes:
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Anti-gravity is easy.  We don't understand how gravity works, IE how it is generated or how to manipulate it.  So to contemplate something that the math says can't exist is anethema to physicists.

I am a firm believer that ZPE exists and that the major energy concerns and many major world governments are actively working against it's development.  I mean just imagine what would happen if, all of a sudden, the world economy was flooded with free energy and every last man, woman, and child on Earth had access to a American type lifestyle.  The resources of the entire planet would become exhausted in a matter of decades and the enviroment would crash.  

I hate to sound like a chauvinist, but think about it for a minute.  If everyone had a car that generated 400 BTU of heat an hour how long would it be before we really did start to have an impact on the enviroment just like the whackos have been claiming we have had for decades.
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I'm not going to dignify any of this with a response.  If there was a way to generate cheap, clean, commercially exploitable power within our technological grasp, someone would have come up with it.  However, fusion, ZPE, antigrav, all of these technologies that are being discussed, are so far out of our technological reach - provided efficient harnessing of these sources is possible at all - that the suggestion that they are being held back for any reason is ludicris at best.
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Anti-gravity is easy.  We don't understand how gravity works, IE how it is generated or how to manipulate it.  


No.
Not really.

 

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I mean just imagine what would happen if, all of a sudden, the world economy was flooded with free energy and every last man, woman, and child on Earth had access to a American type lifestyle.


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Originally posted by Liberator

I hate to sound like a chauvinist, but think about it for a minute.  If everyone had a car that generated 400 BTU of heat an hour how long would it be before we really did start to have an impact on the enviroment just like the whackos have been claiming we have had for decades.

Lib, I think that there is enough credible evidence of global warming being caused by the pollution resulting from the rapid industrialization of the society as of late - but that's little bit OT, isn't it?

And in my opinion, anysort of anti-gravity technology is even more far-fetched than for example, fusion, at the moment. What I meant in my earlier post was that any potential and serious research/funding into these matters is usually lacking precisely because there is not nearly enough interest in the current governments for long-lasting energy policies.

And Sandwich: :lol: Exactly what I was going to say.
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I am a firm believer that ZPE exists and that the major energy concerns and many major world governments are actively working against it's development.  I mean just imagine what would happen if, all of a sudden, the world economy was flooded with free energy and every last man, woman, and child on Earth had access to a American type lifestyle.  The resources of the entire planet would become exhausted in a matter of decades and the enviroment would crash.  



And what's happing now?

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I hate to sound like a chauvinist, but think about it for a minute.  If everyone had a car that generated 400 BTU of heat an hour how long would it be before we really did start to have an impact on the enviroment just like the whackos have been claiming we have had for decades.


So...the hole in the ozone layer is a wacko theory? The accelerrated melting of ice caps, the scientific readings that there is less and less ozone around our planet, the disruption of seasons and certain species lifestyles, the increase in global temperature - that's all crackpot theory?
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No but we dont need to worry about those things. Do they matter?
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:rolleyes: Of course not.
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I get the impression Lib is of the "if we **** the planet up, God'll give us a new one" attitude, sometimes.

 
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However, fusion, ZPE, antigrav, all of these technologies that are being discussed, are so far out of our technological reach - provided efficient harnessing of these sources is possible at all - that the suggestion that they are being held back for any reason is ludicris at best.


I don´t know the reason why,  but it is a fact that they are sitting on this. The documentary i saw showed the story of a guy who had developed a working zero point energy engine, and had gathered a bunch of signatures from several well knowned scientists  atesting to the working order of the device, and yet the patent office denied him his patent. And everybody knows that to get real funds and real work done, you need a patent.
The guys at the patent office excused themselfs saying that you can´t get something out of nothing, and that such devices are only sci-fi gimmics.
There was another guy who had a lantern powered by backyard rocks. He crushed a few pebbles he had found in a gravle road, crushed them, and using the energy (that he theorizes that surrounds all things, living or otherwise), he powered a small pen light.
Another had an engine that turned a big 3 feet high propeller, using a spent 9volt battery. He was drawing over 1000 volts of power out of that 9volt battery, and he said the engine would run for years before needing a new battery. Basically the battery works as a starter engine, and then the engine "feeds" itself. That´s tremendous!! It means you could have an electric car that needs no huge batteries and doesn´t need recharges every hundred miles.
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If he has such a device, he is either ignorant to the point of nonbelief, or he's an imposter.

If he has indeed such a device, why isn't he cashing that energy by applying it to the "electricity current" (that's how it's called isn't it?) thereby making the energy companies give him money?
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If he has such a device, he is either ignorant to the point of nonbelief, or he's an imposter.

If he has indeed such a device, why isn't he cashing that energy by applying it to the "electricity current" (that's how it's called isn't it?) thereby making the energy companies give him money?


You can't actually do that, for a myriad of reasons.  Namely the fact that distribution grids are not set up to be two-way systems, and there is the complex issue of making sure that all sources remain roughly in phase.

However, I would like to see something approaching actual proof before I even consider it a possibility; if all the guy had was an idea with no implimentation, then the Patent Office did the right thing in refusing to issue a patent for it.  But until I see something other than a bad Discovery Chanel "documentary" to back it up, it's fantasy, nothing more.  Perpetual motion machines (ultimately what every example that have been pulled up thus far is) are a gimmic; obsession with them may have been useful before proper laws of motion and conservation of energy were formulated as their continued failure helped bring those laws to fruition, but not now.
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Incidentally, there are cases of people selling electricity to the power companies, at least in the UK; in particular I remember the story of one family who have solar power panels on their roof, and sell the excess back to the local company.

It's isolated, of course, but far from impossible.

 

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I never met, read, saw, heard, heard of any of these "backyard" or "exiled" scientists who actually had any proof/theory/concept behind their work.

I even listened to one of these self proclaimed savors of mankind - and was terribly saddened by the popularity of these charlatans.
He kept on blaming physics and its principles, while the fact that the so called "conventional" physics he lashed out at so hard were long ago abandoned by the scientific community and everyone moved onto quantum and relativistic physics.

Your idea of "repressed" and "forbidden" progress is both over and below the truth.
It would be stupid to stop development of these technologies on the part of the interested parties - it's in their best interest to claim such research and progress to replace their business in the long term.
On the other hand there are a lot of scientifically sound and accepted technologies your professors can rant about all day, and you still won't see them for the next 10 years.
Things like isotope powersources, eprom based storage of data and so on....because the world economy has gone over the top with the Kynes' doctrine and now tries to bring back the mercantilist **** that made the imperialism the facist exploitation it was.
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They aren't researched because they are idiotic bull****.

They can claim that the scientific establishment is ignoring them but there are ways that they could prove that this stuff really works if they wanted to.

If I invented a zero energy device here's what I'd do. I'd contact the James Randi Foundation and claim that the ghost of my father's dead hampster was being used to power my device. I'd say that I was willing to test for this paranormal occurance under laboratory conditions. I'd test it and walk away with my $1m dollar prize and a huge amount of publicity.

What I wouldn't do is ***** and moan about how the scientific establishment was ignoring me or how it was all a conspiracy. If you feel strongly about this Swamp_thing I suggest you send these people e-mails telling them to do exactly what I suggest.
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Last I checked, somebody had managed a sustained, controlled fusion reaction, but it was only barely past the break-even point in terms of the energy they could get out of it. The technology still needed refinement.

But that was in the early 90's. Little or nothing has been done with it since then to my knowledge. Ten years later I would expect to hear something about it...
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