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So is that Magog world-planet or whatever its called from Andromeda considered a dyson sphere?

 

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So is that Magog world-planet or whatever its called from Andromeda considered a dyson sphere?


Dyson sphere encapsulates a star; so unless it's a shell built around a star*, no.

*NB: doesn't have to be an all covering sphere; can be a network of satellites, rings, etc - i.e. anything that surrpunds a star and harnesses its power.

 

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The 900km starship I referred to was the Death Star II.  The Executor can hardly crash into itself!


Ahh, I misread your sentence.  nvm then.

 
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Wait, the DSII was 900 Km ind diameter? I was under the assumption is was far smaller than that.
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Strictly speaking, the ISD Executor was about 4m in length iirc and made out of plastic, metal, tin foil etc etc ;) Though I seem to recall they had to make a big model of it for the surface skimming shots, though that may have been the Death Star itself ;)

 

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What I find silly is that several of you disregard and criticize this topic simply because the starforge is from the star wars universe. The concept in itself is worth an intelligent discussion, not critical chit chat.

 

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It really isn't though.  There is a slight problem with conservation of matter, and so no matter how you choose to explain it the Starforge concept just doesn't work.  Energy can be used to process materials, not make them.  Energy-to-matter can be a viable explanation, except the rate at which the thing is supposed to be able to produce ships is greater than the rate of fuel burn inside a star.  It just doesn't add up.
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It really isn't though.  There is a slight problem with conservation of matter, and so no matter how you choose to explain it the Starforge concept just doesn't work.  Energy can be used to process materials, not make them.  Energy-to-matter can be a viable explanation, except the rate at which the thing is supposed to be able to produce ships is greater than the rate of fuel burn inside a star.  It just doesn't add up.


Coming from a universe built around the idea of the Force, I don't think it really has to make sense.

 

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i vote Starforge/Sith Fleet, since the StarForge has the ability to create an infinite amount of ships.

and i don't think it needs a power source, AFAIK it has its own.
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What I find silly is that several of you disregard and criticize this topic simply because the starforge is from the star wars universe. The concept in itself is worth an intelligent discussion, not critical chit chat.


Problem is, it won't be. Simple as that, it starts off sensible and goes stupid every single time.

Edit : It's like saying 'Jam is better than Peanut Butter.' Theres no correct answer.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2005, 01:37:05 pm by 394 »

 

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Jam!

 

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Oh... alright, yes there is a correct answer ;)

 

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no, PEANUT BUTTER! wasn't there a campaign a while ago that tried to combine the different sci fi universes maybe they can solve this issue

 

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spam fest!
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It is now you've joined in ;)

Why does the phrase 'Professional Witness' come to mind? :p
« Last Edit: April 19, 2005, 05:30:02 pm by 394 »

 

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After the awing hit the executor it was effectively a huge chunk of space debris that blew up of it's own accord. Unless you're willing to argue that the main reactor core is positioned in the very front of the ship.
actualy, mabye not.
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no, what happened was the front of the ship collapsed, creating a chain reaction and the ship exploded.
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I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

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IIRC when the awing crashed into it the entire thing went out of control. Thus the ship was effectively destroyed, deaths star or not.
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
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yeah, the flames from the impact vaporized the helm controls. you guess the result. ;)
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I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta