[karajorma]

I seem to remember reading it somewhere. I can't remember where now though and without VPView installed at the moment I can't check.

It's worth pointing out that one of the FA campaign ideas was based on that fact so it seems likely that I'm not the only person who has that idea from somewhere.

[Goober5000]

I've read it in a few places, but it may be one of those non-canon ideas people just latched on to.  Like Su-Tehp's fleet organization.

[karajorma]

From species table

Eighteen months ago, Admiral Aken Bosch, commander of the GTVA 6th Fleet, launched a violent military coup in the Polaris system. Within weeks, a regional domino effect also toppled the governments of Regulus and Sirius, all swearing allegiance to Bosch and his Neo-Terran Front.

Note that later on in FS2 the 6th Fleet is quite clearly based in Epsilon Pegasi. Now it's possible that they moved there after the NTF rebellion but that seems somewhat unlikely to me.

[Goober5000]

I was just about to edit my post. Well, at least that's settled then.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by karajorma


One small problem. Bosch wasn't based in Polaris. Bosch was the commander of the 6th fleet based in Epsilon Pegasi. Once the rebellion started Bosch was either pushed or moved into Polaris and set up his base there.

Seems odd that he could stage a rebellion in Polaris while not based in that system.

I always assumed that Admiral Bosch's area of responsibilities included more than one system, and actually, the same for most of the rest of the fleet. In Bosch's case, it's almost a necessity unless he was able to completely wipe out the GTVA fleets in Polaris and Regulus.

[karajorma]

I suspect he got them to defect in large numbers rather than simply beating them. There are far too many NTF ships in the campaign for it to be mostly made up of ex-6th fleet ships.

Now that could be due to him controlling and subverting those systems before the rebellion or it could be due to him convincing them to defect later.

[NGTM-1R]

I recall mention somewhere that a lot of the ships were reconditioned from the Polaris boneyard...but I can't remember where or who said it.

[aldo_14]

I'm sure there's text somewhere in the game indicating a large number of ships defected to the NTF; enough to indicate most of them I believe.

I had a neat wee 'script' written for a mini-campaign when Bosch made his first play for power, incidentally...... I really must dig it out sometime.

[Mongoose]

If I recall, aldo, one of the X missions from the Sim of the Year edition involved the start of the NTF rebellion.  It might give you a few ideas...or you could already know about it and have used it.

I'm guessing the general consensus is that more than one destroyer was assigned to each fleet, in contrast to what someone suggested earlier.  At least in my opinion, we see and hear about far too many destroyers during the campaign for them to be that rare.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Mongoose
If I recall, aldo, one of the X missions from the Sim of the Year edition involved the start of the NTF rebellion.  It might give you a few ideas...or you could already know about it and have used it.
 

I didn't actually...albeit my idea was centred around the player being a sort of merc / trader type with a single small fighter and a transport, so it wasn't so much about large battles as nosing around......

[Andreas]

Originally posted by Mongoose
I'm guessing the general consensus is that more than one destroyer was assigned to each fleet, in contrast to what someone suggested earlier.  At least in my opinion, we see and hear about far too many destroyers during the campaign for them to be that rare.

I was referring to FS1-era in my posts.

[Mongoose]

Ah.  Even then, though, I think there were at least a few more destroyers than that.  They definitely weren't up to FS2 levels, though.

[Andreas]

Originally posted by Mongoose
Ah.  Even then, though, I think there were at least a few more destroyers than that.  They definitely weren't up to FS2 levels, though.

While your guess is as good as mine, since we don't have any canon information from in regards of the fleet organizations during FS1, there's a lot of reasons that lead me to believe that there is only one Orion per fleet.

First of all, we never get to see more than one Orion during mission (granted, that was to keep the framerates acceptable back in '98, but that's an out-of-universe explanation, and therefore not valid ). Second, we are never told of any other Orions that for example, would accompany the Galatea (for example in the asteroid escort mission). Third, I've always thought that Orions are one of the most expensive things to build ever, and therefore their cost would prevent widespread deployment.