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Offline Unknown Target

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Now now :D

Anyway, it's until he dies. I'm not sure when that will be, though.

 

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Well first he needs a feeding tube. :nervous:
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"Your immoral tendecies appal me, liberals! I have 10,000 cardinals and bishops willing to piss our pants for conservativism! The tyranny of your regime is finished! Pope Benidict XVI out!"


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"Your immoral tendecies appal me, liberals! I have 10,000 cardinals and bishops willing to piss our pants for conservativism! The tyranny of your regime is finished! Pope Benidict XVI out!"


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"Now, Protestant scum, you will see the true power of this armed and operational Papal Star!"


 
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Now now :D

Anyway, it's until he dies. I'm not sure when that will be, though.


No it´s not. Because of a new rule, popes can only rule untill they reach 80 years old. This guy is 78, so...
..but who cares?!
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Offline Rictor

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Originally posted by Unknown Target

Then that is one of the reasons why religion should not be involved in government, as it defaults to the beliefs of the religion, not the general moral standings of humanity. For instance, persecution of someone based on their beliefs: the educated amongst us know that this is wrong. Yet a religion (I'm not saying Christianity) can say that it is right, and then do whatever they want with that.


Well, unless you're in Iran or something, religion isn't involved in government, at least not to any great degree (even in the States, and even under Bush).

And unless I'm missing something, the Catholic Church isn't prosecuting anyone, they're just being intolerant, which is their right. It's not like they're gunning down gays in the streets of Italy. They're a private membership organization, and it is within their rights to exclude anyone from joining, such as women (talking about the clergy) or to refuse to perform their rituals on anyone (lets say gays). As long as they don't preach actual direct violence, they can propagate their views all they like.

And since it is within the nature of monotheistic religions to believe that they are the only right one, and therefore superior to all others, it stands to reason that they will want to convert, ideally, the entire world. Think of it in terms of sports teams. Manchester fans aren't going to say "we respect Liverpool and ackowledge that they are a team of equal skill and sportsmanship, so we would like nothing better than to embrace them as brothers". No, that doesn't happen, and it's not exactly a surpise or a mystery as to why.

 

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Err...the Crusades? Slavery? Homosexuals? Other religions?

The Crusades occurred over five hundred years ago; you can't blame the Church leaders today for the faults of Church leaders then.  As for slavery, the Church vehemently condemns it, and as far as I know always has, unless you're referring to some time several hundred years ago, in which case my previous statement stands.

The Church does not persecute homosexuals; it teaches tolerance for them.  The Church condemns homosexual activities, not homosexuals themselves.  That's a difference that many people seem to ignore.

As for other religions, do you know nothing of John Paul II?  He did more to foster better relations with other religions groups than perhaps any of his predecessors.

Swamp_Thing, there is no age limit on papal rule; they serve for life.  The age limit of 80 applies to cardinals; after 80, they must retire and can no longer elect the next pope.  They do not give up their title of cardinal, but they no longer serve as the head of an archdiocese.

 
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Swamp_Thing, there is no age limit on papal rule; they serve for life.  The age limit of 80 applies to cardinals; after 80, they must retire and can no longer elect the next pope.  They do not give up their title of cardinal, but they no longer serve as the head of an archdiocese.


I thought the rule aplied to the pope aswell. Oh well...
..like i said time and time before, i don´t really care.
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I've always been taught that as long as you live an ethical life Jesus will accept you (granted, that's still kinda hiding behind "our way is right..."). But I'd like to think that if I'm wrong about being Catholic, God/whoever judges me (if there is such a thing) will recognize that I've tried my best.

I've also always been taught that the Catholic church believes homosexuality is alright in God's eyes (means they don't hate gay people), but "expressing" it is believed to be "wrong".

 

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Offline Thrilla

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Oh, well he won't about around for about 5 years probably, and then they will elect a new one.  I was kind of suprised.  I was hoping for a Latin American Pope.  If they want conservative maybe they should look there.
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Offline Rictor

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If they looked in Latin America, they would be just as likely to get a liberation theologist (which I would welcome) as a conservative, which is what Ratsinger is explicitly against, and what JP2 was none too fond of..

 

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Offline Andreas

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I think that choosing Ratzinger, even just as a "transitional pope", is still a good display of what the general policies of the Vatican are (higly conservative that is).
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Someone told me the new pope was a nazi? I'm not sure if they said that because it has some basis in fact or simply because he happens to be German. I'd love to know though.
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Offline Andreas

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He was in the Hitler Jugend during his younger days. From what I've read, he wasn't all too enthustiastic about the "cause". But I guess for some people just being a German is enough to be classified as a nazi. :rolleyes:

More on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI#Before_1945
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Offline IPAndrews

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Apparently he was in the Hitler Jugend during his younger days.


I'm surprised the press haven't gone to town on that. Plus I have to watch Ai No Korida one day. I'm a big fan of Asian cinema. Only thing that puts me off is the cover they've put on the UK video rental release of that film. That's one embarassing video rental experience right there.
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Originally posted by IPAndrews

Plus I have to watch Ai No Korida one day. I'm a big fan of Asian cinema. Only thing that puts me off is the cover they've put on the UK video rental release of that film. That's one embarassing video rental experience right there.

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Offline Rictor

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He was in the Hitler Youth, as was required of all German kids at the time, and worked on an AA gun during the war. He deserted in 1944.