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I bet people will lobby against it like they did with Concorde, damn them!! :mad:
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Meh, everyone wants bigger faster better, as long as they don't have to pay any more for it ;)

 

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I heard they reckon the next super sonic plane would be a small private, Lear Jet style thing.


Most of the newer, bigger Private jets(Gulfstream, etc.) are just barely subsonic as it is
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There are major hurdles to getting something supersonic is to have regulated properly.  One reason the Concorde saw limited usage, particularly over the United States, was because of regulations concerning sonic booms from civilian aircraft.  Basically, if you're not military, you can't make one.  Coupled with that is the fact that most aircraft designed to fly at supersonic speeds don't fly very well below Mach 1 (aerodynamics and the general form of the lifting body change drastically at that point) and so you can't just fly slower while over land.  Boeing had the right idea with it's supersonic design; it had articulated wings, so it could adapt to fly subsonic over the States and supersonic over water or any country without the sonic boom prohibition.  Trouble is, the engineers took everything in to account in the design except the weight of the passengers themselves (they even factored in their luggage, just not their bodies) and so the closest thing ever produced to a prototype couldn't fly loaded.  With the astronomical costs of breaking the sound barrier and the shift in demand to larger rather than faster planes, the project was scrapped before the prototype was completed.
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I'd prefer to give all my support towrd HUMAN CANNON research vs big birds in the sky.

 

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i look forward to the day when a bug in the fly by wire code causes 2 of theese beasts, fully loaded, to collide midair over a dence urban center :D
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'dence' ?? well yeah, that says a lot really...
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I was trying to work out if that was 'dense' or 'dance', myself.  The thought of the complete destruction of the "Mr Motivator Interpretive Dance School' is most appealing........

 

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:lol: :nod:
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i look forward to the day when a bug in the fly by wire code causes 2 of theese beasts, fully loaded, to collide midair over a dence urban center :D


Looks forwards to the day that Nuke is in the dense urban centre at the time. :D
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And there was me thinking that Commercial Aircraft use liquid hydraulic systems with 1 automated and 1 manual backup...

Fighters use fly by wire, commercial airliners don't need that kind of manouverability ;)

 

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I don't know about the backup systems, but AFAIK the new airbus was fly by wire; I think it's partly because they can build in flight characteristics that improve performance (in terms of fuel efficiency), but which rely upon computer-speed reactions.

EDIt; the Airbus A320 from 1988 uses fly-by-wire; http://www.airbus.com/media/fly_by.asp  I think it was the first to do so, and I think boeing also use it now.

 

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Well, there is a massive increase in response when using Fly By Wire systems, but an increased workload on the entire mechanism. Fighters are given specific pre-flight checks, specially with regard to wire transmission etc (older planes had the wires running along the outside of the fuselage for just this purpose). Commercial airlines tend to avoid it due to maintenance costs, but it's entirely possible that the performance flexibility of FBW would be an advantage as long as the airlines are prepared to maintain.

Backup systems on Commercial aircraft are staggering. Practically everything in a Boeing 747, for example, has about 3 auto-kick backups, and planes from 180 passengers plus these days have auto-landing systems which means that both the pilot and the co-pilot could be out of action, and the plane could still land, be it on a runway, in the ocean etc (though has been pointed out, you don't land a 747 in the ocean, you crash in it)

Most Air tragedies these days come from either Structural fault, which is the responsibility of the ground crew, or traffic control error.

 

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There was the flight that went down over New York in early October, 2001, where the pilot literally sheared the tail off of his plane.  So pilots can still screw up, given sufficient attempts.
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Yes, there was also the Concorde crash where, it appears, the altimeter was giving an incorrect reading, though, iirc, Concorde used the old pitot-static pressure based system, which has been replaced by a radar-based system now, since the Pitot-Static valves can become clogged, dials can jam etc.

 

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Looks forwards to the day that Nuke is in the dense urban centre at the time. :D


il be there hulding up a sign that says death to humanity:D
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