[Flaser]

The Executor was an exception - they lost their shields and were under *stupid* orders to stand ground no matter what.

...and probably every Stardestroyer has *real metal* shutters to protect the bridge in such an event.

[WMCoolmon]

The Imperial fleet relied so much on its precious shields that when they went down, they got 0wned really fast. They're great if you're fighting isolated rebels and pirates, not so much when you're facing a whole fleet.

Mon Calamari were smart and implemented backup shield systems.

[Jal-18]

The Executor also lost it's fire-control system, (destruction of the dome) and was thus unable to hit the nimble A-Wing before it hit.

[knn]

I`m on holiday right now, so I can`t work on the model, however I have a completely new model in my head, I know how to model the head and the rear to look much better. I`ll try to draw some drafts later and scan them, but don`t expect me to start working on it until August. Sorry
BTW, the neck will have superstructure, I`ve removed the fairy tale castle roof.
About the Executor: yup, the shields were down, I think there`s a mission in XWAlliance to take down the shield generators, and in SW3 we could see that the command ship had shutters, so I guess imperial ships also had them. However, the AWing hit so hard it completely destroyed the bridge of the otherwise heavily damaged ship. It would`ve been destroyed w/o that AWing

[Gregster2k]

As far as I'm concerned the destruction of the Executor was a freak accident.

LOL.

back on topic, i think we can get away with windows on the front of the iceni because almost every darn sci-fi known to man has them (COUGH ENTERPRISE-D'S TEN FORWARD COUGH) --- so...i dont see a reason to argue with it. So long as it looks good and fits in Freespace 2's universe, it's all good

[WMCoolmon]

Its not glass though. Its the toughest transparent material known to man. For security reasons they don't make entire ships out of them though.

It'd make a great poor-man's cloaking device though. It'd be a bit embarassing when someone had to go to the John, but, well, in a battle situation it might be a useful distraction.

[Ypoknons]

Look at the size of that thing! (About the distractions part...)

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Mefustae
Am i the only one who cringes whenever you see Bridge Windows or a Bridge right at the front of a SpaceShip, essentially where most of the firepower of an enemy ship is going to impact. Sure, it looks good, but it'd make much more sense to have the Bridge of a ship farther back in a more sheltered area, you lose the view, but you also lose the fear that at the smallest hint of fire, your 'windows' will smash and you'll experience the delightful pleasure explosive decompression bequeaths upon one's body...

How else will you be able to see where you're going?

[knn]

I don`t agree with you Gregster. The Hecate, the Deimos, the Iceni, they all have a big, windowless, heavily armored and armed front, they look like they were designed for frontal assault (but they are not so good at it, especially the Hecate).

As far as I'm concerned the destruction of the Executor was a freak accident.

It was, that`s what I said, but the Executor would`ve been destroyed anyway. For a movie, this looks better than shooting at it for 3 hours until it blows up.
Oh, and [COUGH] the Enterprise D is a diplomatic and exploration ship, not a battleship. [/COUGH] The Iceni is. It`s a "tough nut": few windows (I won`t put any on the large middle armor section and on the front), lots of armor.

[Gregster2k]

Yanno, you're right --- Iceni shouldn't have windows on the front. It should have windows in its "armpits" where armored portions give way to the soft squishy jelly goodness in the center of the donut...mmm....er..

lol.

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Its not glass though. Its the toughest transparent material known to man. For security reasons they don't make entire ships out of them though.

It'd make a great poor-man's cloaking device though. It'd be a bit embarassing when someone had to go to the John, but, well, in a battle situation it might be a useful distraction.

"See through you, we can.":p:lol:

[knn]

I'm working on the new version, go to the first page and look at the first post to see the new front

[Admiral Nelson]

From the personal log of Admiral Aken Bosch:

I went EVA around my ship today to inspect turret orientations. And was all the savagery and terror of my regime for this?   Am I to lead humanity to its destiny in the NTF NearlyACube?  Even the pharohs in their divinity could never have imagined a low poly piece of junk as this! Can knn save humanity from its fate at the hands of the destroyers and give us a worthy vessel, or must we all perish as the countless civlizations that proceeded us did???

[TrashMan]

I kinda allways assumed the windown were of a realyl tough material and that ships had metal shutter.

When I make my warships I allways put the windows in deep indents for two reasons:
1. It's hard to hit them.
2. Leaves lots of room for thick mettalic sheilds ..come to think of it - they can be added with a animation SEXP.

[TrashMan]

Allmost forgot - for the neck you might want to try the same thing I did for the Hecate neck - doesn't use much polies nad looks good too...

[CaptJosh]

I was scrolling up and reading and I wanted to point out a minor detail about that "dome." Unless I'm thinking of a totally different scene, that was a spheroid, and it was the shield generator, not fire control.

EDIT: Seems a bit odd for a ship that big to have only one shield generator, though. Maybe it was only for the bridge area.

[FireCrack]

It has two.

[Galemp]

*grips Josh by the shoulders and looks deeply into his eyes*

This. Is. Not. The. Thread. For. That. Discussion.

How's the Iceni coming along? At the moment I think it needs a more extensive remodeling than what's currently being applied.

[CaptJosh]

Speaking of the Iceni, has anyone seen it in the new VP files? I've already reported this in the VP release thread, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen it. The reason, well, just take a look at this post:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35883.msg743832.html#msg743832

[StratComm]

Also not the thread for THAT discussion.  I haven't had the chance to check out the MediaVPs yet, but I was about to.  I'll post any comments in the appropriate thread.