[Corsair]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501927.html

I think I might blow a fuse.

TOPEKA, Kan., May 5 -- Debating a question that the scientific establishment considers settled, Kansas education authorities put evolutionary theory on trial Thursday in a hearing marked by sharp exchanges over Earth's origins and what students should be taught in science class.

Scientists who support the idea of intelligent design, a set of assumptions that challenges established scientific thinking, told an approving Kansas State Board of Education subcommittee that modern Darwinian theory relies too much on unproven reasoning. Gaps in the science, they argued, leave open the possibility that a creator, or an unidentified "designing mind," is responsible for earthly development.
   
It would not be far-fetched, said William S. Harris, a Kansas City researcher who favors intelligent design, to conclude that DNA itself is the work of an intelligent being. Students, he said, should be told that.

[Taristin]

When can we nuke the southern and central plains areas of the US?

[Bobboau]

as soon as I don't live there...

well it's good to see this back, the exact same topic, does someone want to start right back were we left off?

creationism is not science.
and admins this is a perfict opertunity to try out that sudgestion

[Kamikaze]

I think of teaching ID as teaching sci-fi. Basically the idea is some "unidentified" advanced intelligence created life. If this isn't taught on a religious basis then the only alternative is aliens.

Teaching to students that aliens may have come down millions of years ago and made animals is pretty ridiculous. While we're at it let's teach them about hyperdrive and lightsabers.

[WMCoolmon]

It would not be far-fetched, said William S. Harris, a Kansas City researcher who favors intelligent design, to conclude that DNA itself is the work of an intelligent being. Students, he said, should be told that.

**** no.

I can 'conclude' that the great pyramids of Egypt were built by space aliens by that logic. Nevermind that there's no real evidence, it just sounds like a nice theory.

Or hey! Everything at the atomic level and below is all a hoax, a mass conspiracy. After all, everything seems solid. I can feel stuff. I don't think no electrostatic fields are there or else I'd feel them.

Yeah, I think that about sums up my thoughts on teaching intelligent design as 'fact'.

[Anaz]

Learn ID in church.

Learn evolution in science class.

We already have both, and they both have a purpose.

People are dumb.

[Blue Lion]

My computer must have been created by god then, it's way too complex.

[Swamp_Thing]

"Scientists who support the idea of intelligent design"

Now there´s a contradiction in terms, if i ever saw one...

[Bobboau]

right up there with "preists who suport the idea that there is no god"

in history class you don't have people asking for balence between those who say that the holocost didn't happen and those who say it did.

[WMCoolmon]

Scientists who support the idea of intelligent design, a set of assumptions that challenges established scientific thinking, told an approving Kansas State Board of Education subcommittee that modern Darwinian theory relies too much on unproven reasoning. Gaps in the science, they argued, leave open the possibility that a creator, or an unidentified "designing mind," is responsible for earthly development.

It would not be far-fetched, said William S. Harris, a Kansas City researcher who favors intelligent design, to conclude that DNA itself is the work of an intelligent being. Students, he said, should be told that.

I like how they deduce a fact from a possibility.

in history class you don't have people asking for balence between those who say that the holocost didn't happen and those who say it did.

Actually, I'd love to see that done for some of those conspiracy theories that things 'never happened'. Let both sides present the 'evidence'.

[Bobboau]

the moon does not exist!

[Bobboau]

click on me, I am important

[Night Hammer]

Originally posted by Raa
When can we nuke the southern and central plains areas of the US?

people down here(texas) say the same thing about our neck of the woods(new jersey/newyork)

edit: ()for clarification

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Bobboau
click on me, I am important

After watching that massive ammount of scientific evidence, i have seen the light!!

No, wait... that was just the TV turning on.

[Bobboau]

I just wanted to make sure people would watch it given how I spent like an hour uploading it.

[phreak]

well as long as the quality isn't ****ty like the last one you uploaded.

[Swamp_Thing]

I have a question for the creationists:

Since you want to see creation being tought in schools, how do you feel about giving the other religions an equal shot at it, uh?
How would you like if you had to sit in a class indoctrinating you with the muslim view of creation? Or how about the Jehovas view? Or the buddhists view? Or Timothy Leary´s view?
How come we don´t hear you demanding for those other "theories" to be tought in school too?

[FireCrack]

ID is an absouletley excelent theory...











...seriously, i am 100% in favor of it
















(For the plot of a sci-fi series)

[Ace]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
I have a question for the creationists:

Since you want to see creation being tought in schools, how do you feel about giving the other religions an equal shot at it, uh?
How would you like if you had to sit in a class indoctrinating you with the muslim view of creation? Or how about the Jehovas view? Or the buddhists view? Or Timothy Leary´s view?
How come we don´t hear you demanding for those other "theories" to be tought in school too?

If Judaeo-Christian creationism has to be taught, it makes logical sense for the creation beliefs of other major faiths in the world to be taught. Otherwise it would be state sponsorship of one faith over another.

So the Hindu and Buddhist creation beliefs should also be covered, perhaps along with some local native peoples.

I would not object to "Intelligent Design" if it meant that many religions had *equal* representation, not just one faith. Then move onto the purely scientific viewpoint.

[Kosh]

I seriously question the belief that humanity was an "intelligent design". Considering all the horrors we commit against eachother, both in the here and now and in the past, I believe that humanity was a "defective design".