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Offline Thrilla

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I watched it last night and I liked it.  There are its historical inaccuracies that seem to bug alot of movie critics.  Like the flaming stones and the frigg'n crossbows, but that is why it is called a MOVIE!  I thought it was good, and I plan on watching it again.  And I see that Doctor Bashir from DS9 has had some work lately too.  I always thought he was a pretty good actor and for once Bloom isn't playing the sissy.  Irons, and Niesen I thought did a good job, and so did Edward Norton.  Though it took me till the credits to see who Edward Norton played.  Kinda hard to tell when he's wearing a mask of silver.
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Actually the description of a crusade is inaccuracy that bugs me - it's too romanticised.
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Offline Solatar

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I saw the preview, and I definantly want to see the movie. I don't have high hopes for an accurate depiction of the crusades though, just another huge battle.

 

Offline DeepSpace9er

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It was too political and PC imo. Im not going to say anymore.

 
That, and far too boring. I just wanted everyone to hurry up and die, so I could leave the cinema. Shows how much it made me care about any of the characters.

On a side note, I love how rocks covered in oil always explode in these types of films. :D

 

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It looked dumb to me. I'm getting tired of these lame historical epics all trying to cash in on the Lord of the Rings appeal.
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Offline Rictor

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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
It looked dumb to me. I'm getting tired of these lame historical epics all trying to cash in on the Lord of the Rings appeal.

I agree, though it's Gladiator, not LOTR. But in this case, it's Ridley Scott again, so even if it is a piece if crap, you can't exactly accuse him of ripping off his own movie.

It's all getting very tiresome. Originality please.

 
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I watched it last night and I liked it.  There are its historical inaccuracies that seem to bug alot of movie critics.  Like the flaming stones and the frigg'n crossbows, but that is why it is called a MOVIE!

It may be "just a movie" but by researching your topic thoroughly, you pay respect to the subject which you are about to recreate. However, maybe they did do their homework and just thought this made a better effect. I think they were just lazy though. This sounds like another movie that 10 minutes of will be shown to our kids in history class.
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Offline Grug

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I didn't find it very epic at all. But it seemed like a nice small story based in a Ealy AD era.

The battles are slightly romantisised but are entertaining none-the-less.

All in all I enjoyed the film, but seeing it once is enough I think. :)

 

Offline Krackers87

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Meh, i'll put up with a little hollywood-ization to see medival dudes beat the **** out of each other.
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Just saw it. In Jerusalem, mind you. :p Historical accuracies aside, I enjoyed it. The major flaw that I - and, unavoidably, every other person in the theater - saw was that Jerusalem is not anywhere near a plain! :p
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Maybe it was back then?

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Yeah... uhh.. have a few earthquakes since?
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Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by vyper
Actually the description of a crusade is inaccuracy that bugs me - it's too romanticised.


rule of thumb:

never go see a movie and expect it to be completely accurate to historical dates/events/figures.

 

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Yeah... uhh.. have a few earthquakes since?


Ever hear the phrase, "Jerusalem - City on Seven Hills"?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Liberator

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Was it even near a desert back then?

I enjoyed it for what it was, and PCness aside, it was quite entertaining.  But it was ENTIRELY too preachy.
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Ever hear the phrase, "Jerusalem - City on Seven Hills"?

No, but I heard Rome and San Francisco were built on seven hills. :p

  

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No, but I heard Rome and San Francisco were built on seven hills. :p


That and a bunch of other cities, yeah. :p
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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill