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Offline Goober5000

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Giving the wrong coordinates and made me jump 1 or 2 click to far from the Iceni
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Offline Ashrak

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well

the mission where they were blowing up the knossos .. they should waited for the jug THEN hit the mines
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Offline Dark RevenantX

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The knossos has as much hp as a sathanas.  If three mesons are enough to blow a knossos then it's enough for a sathanas.

 

Offline Yogert

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Disbanding the GTI. Notice how everything went down hill after the Hades Rebellion=P
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Offline Boomer

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Commands worst mistake... Hmmm... Lets try this for starters!

Putting all their faith in one super capital ship that suffered from a horrifically large surface area to turret ratio and very poor design, resulting in it's becoming the greatest scientific failure of it's time.

Oh, and not collapsing the Capella-Gamma Draconis Jump Node after the First Shivan Sathanas was destroyed.

Those two were such big blunders they have me in gridlock to decide which was the bigger blunder.
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Offline Liberator

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Command's biggest blunder was deploying the C with no support other than a few bombers.  They should have had 5 destroyers flank the first Sath and blew it away before anybody knew what happened.

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Offline Dark RevenantX

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the colossus sucks

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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That's the best theory I've ever heard.
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They should have had 5 destroyers flank the first Sath and blew it away before anybody knew what happened.


no, what they should have done is sent in 20 bomber wings and blown it up in no time flat.
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Amen to that, Carl.  I know that the real physical reason this occurs is due to gameplay/resource considerations, but why is it that we never see more than two or three wings of bombers anywhere at one time?  The most ridiculous example would definitely be in High Noon, followed closely by Bearbaiting.  In either case, you've got a ship capable of destroying your entire civilization, and you send one capital ship and a few fighter wings after it?  Come on!  If we're looking outside the realm of actual gameplay, Command should have sent practically every fighter and bomber available, armed with the entire ordnance of their respective destroyers.  I'm talking dozens of bombers, all outfitted with Helioses.  As for capital ships, besides the big C, throw at least three or four Orions and a few Hecates, plus a dozen or so Deimos corvettes.  And what about the Mjolnirs?  Why weren't they deployed even once against the Sathanes?  If you had surrounded that Gamma Draconis-Capella node with a few dozen of those babies, plus the aforementioned force, the GTVA would have had nothing to worry about.  

The way I see it, if they had played their cards right, the GTVA could have handled the entire fleet of 80+ Sathanes heading from Gamma Draconis to Capella.  Just put all of your fighter and bomber resources (plus some cruisers and corvettes and the odd destroyer) on the Gamma Draconis side of the node and repeat Bearbaiting ad nauseam.  Then, as the Sathanes move into Capella, open up with a display of firepower that makes the Battle of Endor look puny.  Just keep doing that until either the Shivans let up or you can get a destroyer loaded out with Mesons to the front lines; seal up the Capella-Gamma Draconis node, and you're home free.  But no, Command's arrogance and stupidity lead to the loss of thousands of lives and an entire inhabited system.  Oh wel, at least the gameplay works out better for us in the end. :p

 

Offline Andreas

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Mongoose, you're forgetting that the Sathanas itself most likely has a fighter/bomber complement at least equal to the Colossus. That would be, what 240?

The GTVA could have never taken down 80+ SJs, and just for the record, even just 80x240 would make 19200 fighters and bombers. You think those pathetical Mjolnir RBCs could handle that? Let alone the Colossus?

And who says they would come out one by one from the Gamma Draconis node? Even if they would, eventually (if the GTVA could even muster a battlegroup strong enough to counter Juggernauts head on at that point) GTVA's forces would be depleted.

Their biggest mistake? Command should have saved the Knossos, I guess.
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Your opinion as to what was command's worst mistake
Except of course, in that situation, the shivans are also free to deploy lots and lots of bombers.  Given the whole 'masters of subspace' thing they've got going, I'd expect most or all Shivan fighters are intersystem jump capable.  You get the shivans dumping four or five Satanii worth of fighters/bombers through the jump node at once, let alone eighty, the GTVA is in big trouble.


Anyway, some more of commands greatest mistakes:

Not turning off the friggin safeties on those Helioses.  What the heck do I need a lock for anyway?

Not bothering to translate "Then you FIRE your Helios torpedos at the Sathanas's main guns" into vasudan, thus ensuring I had to do it all myself.

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Offline WMCoolmon

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Actually, it seems that jump nodes are 'one way', so to speak - you have to enter/exit along a single vector (line) to the other jump node you're going to/from. Put up a wall of Mjolnirs 'behind' where the Sathanas would exit, and the Sathanas would be hard pressed to turn fast enough, assuming there was a capital ship/fighter/bomber escort.

The biggest problem would be anti-fighter defenses. Those are particularly effective at taking out stationary defense platforms.
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Letting Bosch escape...or was it? :nervous:
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Not listening to Kappa 3.


:nod: Face it, if they had listened and shut down or destroyed the portal when Kappa 3 told them to none of this mess would have happend.
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I know that the real physical reason this occurs is due to gameplay/resource considerations, but why is it that we never see more than two or three wings of bombers anywhere at one time?


That's one of the oldest items on my wishlist for FS3. Having an engine with the ability to handle all the fighters and bombers that ought to be deployed by a typical GTVA battle group when taking on something like a juggernaut.
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:nod: Face it, if they had listened and shut down or destroyed the portal when Kappa 3 told them to none of this mess would have happend.


Well... But what if the JumpNode was already stable at this time?

 

Offline Dark RevenantX

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SCP CAN handle all those bombers and fighters.  Just set your details and crap off and plop in 15 fighter wings.  Give those wings 15 waves and set it so that each wave comes when the previous wave has one less fighter than the original.

each wave with four fighters....

60 fighters, 1 kill per wing and you have 105 fighters.  It makes it seem epic, as a whole ****load of fighters come on and on.  To make it better, you can edit the tables to give capital ships more powerful blob lasers, with faster refire and projectile speed for them, too.  Have the waves not jump in, but appear near the main capship.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Having a poor need-to-know basis.


I'm with Setekh on this one. Command seems to hold back too much information that would be highly useful to people in the field.
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:nod: Face it, if they had listened and shut down or destroyed the portal when Kappa 3 told them to none of this mess would have happend.


I never really knew, but was Kappa 3 from the same Kappa Wing from the lost patrol? What the hell happened to it?
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