[vyper]

It ain't over till it's over boys.

[Corsair]

Hurrah!

edit: wait no, I take that back... Family Guy isn't on their list. Gah.

[Rictor]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4545519.stm

"Since we began shutting these sites down, the time that it takes to download a file on BitTorrent has increased exponentially which means the experience of downloading copyrighted films and TV shows is not what it used to be," said Mr Glickman.

"We intend to make it even worse. Protecting the television industry is essential."

[Flipside]

LOL The experience of going to the cinema, or even of sitting down in front of a TV and expecting some kind of quality isn't what it used to be either. Do they plan to pour money and resources into fixing that?

[redmenace]

I haven't experienced any problems or slow downs. Matter of fact, the more files are distributed with more people the faster it is as long as the trackers have enough bandwidth.

On a side note, they are protecting their own property rights which they have an absolute right to do.

[Flipside]

They may have a right to do so, but they are going about it in completely the wrong fashion. They take the assumption 'We are the ultimate 'Right' and you are the ultimate 'wrong'' which is bull, they represent a group of companies that have been proved to be deliberately hiking up prices, and ignoring orders to stop since before piracy was moved to the fore as the reason why they are doing so. Piracy is merely being used an an excuse to be honest.

I don't deny their rights to the material, but if they'd stopped treating people like morons when they'd been asked to, this problem would not nearly be the problem that it is today. No-one has done more to make people aware the clients such as Bit-Torrent exist than the MPAA, you have to stop and ask yourself why.

[redmenace]

I do not deny my own hatred of the MPAA. Both for ethical and business reasons. The MPAA and companies in general don't see the on demand market over the internet as a market. I don't download because I want to steal. I download using torrents for TV shows because I am a busy person that doesn't have time to watch TV when stuff comes on. But it is a market and a possibly profitable one. And the use of torrents and P2P technology would be a means to do it cheaply. However, because MPAA acts in a unethical manner it doesn't justify ones own breaking of the law or even as an excuse. This includes me as well. Every time I download a episode of the West Wing I break the law. Getting caught is a risk I am willing to take.

[Hunter]

Things are gonna get worse before they get better, that's all I've got to say. Watch your backs!

[Bobboau]

just because what you are doing is against the law does not mean it is bad.

[redmenace]

In this case it is. I consider the respect of property rights to be necessary and just.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Bobboau
just because what you are doing is against the law does not mean it is bad.

Bob hath spoken, and lo! his words flowed like a mighty river of truth.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by redmenace
In this case it is. I consider the respect of property rights to be necessary and just.

Property? Only physical things can be called property.

[vyper]

Now just a minute...

[Grey Wolf]

How can you own an idea? Can you prove that no one had that idea before you? How can you honestly be sure that it is, in fact, unique?

[Rictor]

Well in this case, it is an actual product, not a vague idea. But my rationale is that it's OK to steal from the extremely rich.

[redmenace]

Not all the owners of companies represented by the MPAA are super rich. Shareholders come from all walks of life.

[vyper]

n/m

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by redmenace
Not all the owners of companies represented by the MPAA are super rich. Shareholders come from all walks of life.

Um... offhand, the MPAA board consists of 7 companies; Disney, MGM, Sony, Paramount, 20th Century Fox, Universal Studios and Warner Bros; not exactly poor, struggling artists there.

Of course, the main thing I & most people would/should(?) dislike about the MPAA is that part of their legislative aim is to remove the protection that applies to people who record TV - i.e. on VCR, DVD or digital media.

I'm not an advocate of piracy; I think if you actually value something, you should buy it anyways.  However, I think the MPAA and RIAA are effectively using the big bogeyman of digital piracy as an excuse for whenever profits dip; furthermore, you can't react to new technology by suppressing it - to do so is a disservice to everyone.

I sometimes suspect that the real reason the MPAA and RIAA clamp down on this sort of area is not because of money loss (how many people would pay the prices they ask?), but because free & frequent distribution of their product shows just how shoddy and overpriced it is.  I think there have been numerous studies showing that people don't mind paying for CDs, etc, as long as they thing they're getting value for money; and certainly in the case of music, CD album sales continue to rise each year (but the BPAA - the UK equivalent of the RIAA - *****es because this is a result of prices often being lowered).

[redmenace]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Um... offhand, the MPAA board consists of 7 companies; Disney, MGM, Sony, Paramount, 20th Century Fox, Universal Studios and Warner Bros; not exactly poor, struggling artists there.

Umm those companies are not super rich people. They are owned by shareholders. When one person steals from the company you also steal from the shareholder. These companies maybe powerful and have a great deal of cash on hand.

It all depends on how you look at things. As far as I can tell people choose to ignore the owners of corporation. I however, see things differently.

[Sandwich]

Sorry to bump this, but what the heck??