[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Mefustae
So before you start spouting coldly that their actions were 'counter-productive' or accuse Muslims of being 'Half-Witts', look in a damn mirror and ask yourself, "What would i think if the roles were reversed?" [

"Bloody idiots..Can't belive how stupid people can get.."
*turns next page of newspaper and continues reading*

[Flipside]

As far as I'm concerned, the words that count cannot be burnt or drowned, because they are written in your heart and mind.

[EtherShock]

Morons--morons, morons, morons! They're all morons!

Here's how journalism works:

• A news organization (AP/Reuters, etc.) report on a story
• Your local media recieves the feed off the wire from them
• Story is written, with of course, a detail or two omitted
• Story goes to editor, more details omitted for the sake of space/hidden agenda
• Story goes to print

News never gets questioned. It just gets reported. That's what's wrong! Things also rush through because of deadlines, but this is something they should've known would have consequences, and yeah, people are stupid for believing anything they read. No one is innocent. Both parties are guilty.

[KappaWing]

On Sunday, Afghan Muslim clerics threatened to call for a holy war against the United States.

I could understand them getting a bit pissed off about this, (as I would be if I were in their situation), but a holy war? As serious as the situation is, it's kinda hard not to laugh at these people. Alright, so the media made a mistake, (or flat out lied, as all you cynics think out there), but even if this was a true story, the Muslim community is completey and totally overreacting. Remember, it's only 1 PERSON OUT OF THE WHOLE DAMN COUNTRY who flushed it down, it's not like millions of people did it or something. A holy war against the US because a certian individual flushed a holy book down the toilet would not accomplish much IMHO.

[Genryu]

Well, sorry to have to explain this, but it's exactly this kind of reaction that make Islamist want to go Jihad on your ass. I'm sure they could understand that not every American is like this, if each and every time something like this happen, the perps got with less than a slap on the hand. IMO, if Abu-Grahib and company didn't happen, this particular tidbit of information wouldn't have the same effect.

[KappaWing]

If the Muslims are that offended and feel the need to act, they should attack the media perps themselves, not the whole friggin country. I agree that this mistake should not go unpunished, but I don't believe that the media is responsible for the deaths of these people that the Muslims killed in their riots. If I were a Muslim cleric, I would certianly sue the ass of all who were involved in the mistake, or lie, or whatever, and make them pay for spewing such crap without confirming their story, but going totally nutzo and declaring holy war is just stupid when a peaceful solution could be implemented IMHO.

[Genryu]

Why would they attack the media ? As far as I know, it isn't the media, but the military that desecrated their holy book. And before you say that Newsweek didn't confirm the story, I'd like you to search a little for what ex-prisoner have to say. You're right when you say no one can convict flushing it, but it the general idea of their book being desecrated that plunged the Islamist into frothing at the mouth. Frankly, as time pass, I see less and less difference between the average American redneck, convinced of his moral superiority, and the average Islamist, convinced of his religious superiority.

[Flipside]

Bring back Ghandi.

[KappaWing]

Originally posted by Genryu
Why would they attack the media ? As far as I know, it isn't the media, but the military that desecrated their holy book. And before you say that Newsweek didn't confirm the story, I'd like you to search a little for what ex-prisoner have to say. You're right when you say no one can convict flushing it, but it the general idea of their book being desecrated that plunged the Islamist into frothing at the mouth. Frankly, as time pass, I see less and less difference between the average American redneck, convinced of his moral superiority, and the average Islamist, convinced of his religious superiority.

Alright then. I was just saying that they jumped to action a bit too fast. If I was going to do something as extreme as declare a holy war I would at least look into the matter personally and not just take all of my info from one source (Newsweek).

EDIT: An' I aint' no friggin fraggin redneck, ya hear? :thepimp:

[Genryu]

I hear ya.... Pimp .
Still, I did a little research, and it seems that many people from Guantamono and Abu-Grahib did report desecration of the Koran. Sure, no source was a source like CNN, BBC or whatelse, but I have a hard time believing a western news channel would report on this, as in our eyes this is not something really important.