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Offline icespeed

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Humans are a plague...or so it seems
i don't think it's such as big problem as they seem to make out (yeah okay its a problem, but not like, hugely huge). they keep mentioning 'against the background of the fossil record' or something, but probably heaps of species went extinct without actually leaving a fossil record, which gives this report a false high in terms of extinctions.
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Unless we can go through a massive green revolution in the next 20 years or so we might have a chance.  But as I see it (really hate being pessimistic) were as good as dead.  And who knows you have to remember not ALL the forms of life died out from the different eras that came before.
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Just because humanity dies, doesn't mean that the rest of nature has to go along with us.

My god you people are so egocentric. Like humanity is the greatest thing to ever pop up on this earth. :doubt:
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Insects are going to be the next big thing IMO.
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Just because humanity dies, doesn't mean that the rest of nature has to go along with us.

My god you people are so egocentric. Like humanity is the greatest thing to ever pop up on this earth. :doubt:

No...just the most potentially destructive one.
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Insects are going to be the next big thing IMO.


...again... :p
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Picture this:
It is 500 years in the future.  There is no ozone, and plants+animals are nonexistant on the surface.  We dug into the ground, made cities, used machines to make oxygen and recycle urine into drinking water and **** into plastic, and created underground super-kept gardens.  Ever seen Babylon 5?  "A self contained city".  Ever seen the Matrix?  The Matrix defines life in 500 years.

 

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I'm sure we'll be dead long before we manage to totally kill the ozone layer if we go that route.
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Offline Kosh

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Let's not go that route so we don't have to find out. :p


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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Picture this:
It is 500 years in the future.  There is no ozone, and plants+animals are nonexistant on the surface.  We dug into the ground, made cities, used machines to make oxygen and recycle urine into drinking water and **** into plastic, and created underground super-kept gardens.  Ever seen Babylon 5?  "A self contained city".  Ever seen the Matrix?  The Matrix defines life in 500 years.


Could make for an interesting scifi setting.

The runaway greenhouse effect turns the surface into something like Venus.
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Yeah that is an interesting way of looking at things.  So what happens when we push everything else out...and I mean everything.  Except maybe seagulls that rely on us to supply them with junk to scavenge.


yeah, were going to, for no good reason kill all the cows.

a number of plants and animals have formed sybiotic relationships with us. we don't compete with them, we cooperate and as a result, these organisms flurish along side us, moveing with us into new lands, pushing the native organisms out unless the natives can provide a better symbiote (at least in some regards) than what we have with us already. as long as we can keep at least one of these alive we won't go extinct. we arn't "destroying" the environment, we're changeing it, at a very rapid pace, and many organisms can't keep up.
we are not specal, we are animals.

I know this isn't your standard hippy eco- terror.
it lacks that wonderfull 'humans ****ing themselves with there own stupid aragance' that everyone seems to love.

but think about it, the only things that seporate us from any other animal is more or less an extention of us being realy realy smart. when you look at it we are just part of a 6 billion year evolution game. look up a fellow named Anomalocaris,if it wouldn't have been for that one animal, things would have been much diferent, it was a vastly superior preditory animal and every animal on the earth was forced to adapt to it or die, and as a result we go our modurn gourps of animals. today there is a supreemly deadly omnivor that is able to work cooperatively to gather vast amounts of food and alters it's domain to provide better food suplies. anything that doesn't develop a symbiotic relation ship with it, or otherwise evolves to survive with it dies out.

now it's not that I want to see most speciese die out, it'll suck, those animals are cool, but I don't think that we are going to go extinct because of a lack of biodiversity. in fact it'll probly end up being the opposite.
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Offline Nuke

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Originally posted by Ace


Could make for an interesting scifi setting.

The runaway greenhouse effect turns the surface into something like Venus.


or perhaps you can try the classic 'the time machine'. damn it peopole there has to be some unexplored aspect of sci-fi that hasnt been remade a million times. everything we have today is dirived from a handful of classics from the 1800s, and even they got there ideas elsewere.

pessimisim, optimisim, im glad the sun will explode in a few million years thus clensing the universe of such bull**** words.
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Offline Ace

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or perhaps you can try the classic 'the time machine'. damn it peopole there has to be some unexplored aspect of sci-fi that hasnt been remade a million times. everything we have today is dirived from a handful of classics from the 1800s, and even they got there ideas elsewere.

pessimisim, optimisim, im glad the sun will explode in a few million years thus clensing the universe of such bull**** words.


But in the Time Machine the surface eventually recovered :p

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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Picture this:
It is 500 years in the future.  There is no ozone, and plants+animals are nonexistant on the surface.  We dug into the ground, made cities, used machines to make oxygen and recycle urine into drinking water and **** into plastic, and created underground super-kept gardens.  Ever seen Babylon 5?  "A self contained city".  Ever seen the Matrix?  The Matrix defines life in 500 years.


What makes you think a lack of ozone would be bad for life?  IIRC, radiation is good for stimulating mutation and thus evolution; even a nuclear war wouldn't destroy life.

Humanity is far more adept at killing itself off than life in general.  But that's not the point, really, anyway - in killing off other species, we make life on earth less suited for us.  Whether it's in unbalancing the ecosystem in a way that leads to famine, or damaging the constituents of the atmosphere, or simple resource depletion.

 

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Originally posted by Raa
Just because humanity dies, doesn't mean that the rest of nature has to go along with us.

My god you people are so egocentric. Like humanity is the greatest thing to ever pop up on this earth. :doubt:

If we're not, then what is? If we can't keep this planet alive, then by God, we're not letting the roaches take it over. :p

 

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Crocodiles have been around for what? 250 million years? they will inherit when we leave/are destroyed...
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the world will one day be ruled by giant hyperintelegent cuttlefish :D
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By Hooloovoos,  more likely.

 

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ShivanTs will take the place of humanity... Sorry for the pun :)
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