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Offline FireCrack

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486 hard drive into new computer
on: June 12, 2005, 08:44:36 pm
I'm trying to take an old hard drive from a 486 and put it into a modern computer (windows XP) i've already done all the hardware part but windows wont recognise it... soo, anyone have any help?
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Ghostavo

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Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 08:49:52 pm
Just one question, why are you deliberatly trying to slow down your computer? :confused:
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Offline Annorax

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Re: 486 hard drive into new computer
Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 08:51:02 pm
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Originally posted by FireCrack
I'm trying to take an old hard drive from a 486 and put it into a modern computer (windows XP) i've already done all the hardware part but windows wont recognise it... soo, anyone have any help?


If the OS on the old computer was DOS 6.22/Win 3.1 or Win95, there's a good chance the hard drive could be FAT16. Windows XP doesn't support this ancient file system. I would suggest you put the drive back into its old 486 system, install Windows 98, and run Drive Converter to change the file system to FAT32. Once that's done, XP should recognize the drive.
 

Offline Turnsky

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Re: 486 hard drive into new computer
Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 09:01:37 pm
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Originally posted by FireCrack
I'm trying to take an old hard drive from a 486 and put it into a modern computer (windows XP) i've already done all the hardware part but windows wont recognise it... soo, anyone have any help?


um... what's the capacity on that thing?... 500 mb?
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Offline MatthewPapa

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Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 09:42:57 pm
The 486 hdd I have in my closet somewhere is 101.213 mb. Boy have times changed.
 

Offline Turnsky

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Reply #5 on: June 12, 2005, 09:43:53 pm
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Originally posted by MatthewPapa
The 486 hdd I have in my closet somewhere is 101.213 mb. Boy have times changed.


yeah, seriously.
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #6 on: June 12, 2005, 10:07:29 pm
I actually had an 800mb drive in my 486. That thing was hot ****.
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Offline Scuddie

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Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 10:16:03 pm
Sound Blaster Pro was garbage.  It was barely a step up from the original Sound Blaster.  SB16 was better than that gold plated piece of crap.
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Offline DeepSpace9er

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Reply #8 on: June 12, 2005, 10:29:22 pm
Reminds me of my olde 386 20mhz, 40Mb HD, SB16, 4x CD-Rom, Win 3.1, 5.25'' Floppy, 3.5'' Floppy.... those were the simple days.
 

Offline Dark RevenantX

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Reply #9 on: June 12, 2005, 11:06:46 pm
Top of the line 400mhz versus top of the line 4000mhz dual core dual processor... 3900% increase...

Nah, nothing has changed!
 

Offline Nix

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Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 01:06:52 am
Might want to check your jumpers as well to make sure you're properly mastered/slaved, or cable selected for all drives *GAG*

That, and make sure that the information in the BIOS is set according to the drive specifications, such as Sectors, Cylinders, Heads information.  Sometimes your BIOS will not detect this information and it'll need to be force-fed.  

Looks like Deepspacer's got me beat.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: 486 hard drive into new computer
Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 03:04:55 am
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Originally posted by FireCrack
I'm trying to take an old hard drive from a 486 and put it into a modern computer (windows XP) i've already done all the hardware part but windows wont recognise it... soo, anyone have any help?



What type of format does the drive have right now?


And why do you want to do this anyway?
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 05:47:49 pm
Ok, the reason i wnat to dothis is that the drive has the whole commander keen series on it is well as a ton of other games wich are awesome.


Anyways, i dont think i'd be able to install 98 on this thing

Now, some distro's of linux support FAT16 right, so what would mabye be a good distro to use on a liveCD so i can just copy my files over to my other HDD.
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."
 

Offline Ghost

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Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 06:41:12 pm
Well, originally I was going to scream "WHY?!!?!"... but since it's for awesome old gaming, I think that's a reasonable..um..reason.

Good luck.
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Offline Acer

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Reply #14 on: June 13, 2005, 06:41:30 pm
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_buvl.asp

As you can see from the above link Win XP fully supports all of the FAT file system formats. The reason your not being able to access the drive is that it prob inst being recognized by your BIOS. As Nix said you're probrably going to have to enter the drive info by hand since these old drives are not plug and play. All of this can be done in the BIOS wich can usually be acessed by pressing ''Delete'' on startup. Also dont forget to check the jumpers. Also chaging the flat cable the HD is connected to might help, since in the way it's currently setup it might be conflicting with other devices.

Good Luck!
 

Offline FireCrack

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Reply #15 on: June 13, 2005, 08:08:29 pm
Well, one time when i installed it before i had set the jumpers right (i have set them right now) it booted up to my 486's OS wich was simply entitled "Menu" or somthing similar, so i'm sure the bios atleast recognised it once or twice, but i'l try the bios thing.
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."
 

Offline Turnsky

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Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 10:34:04 pm
set it as a slave drive on another system..
easy done. :nod:

it'll prolly be ata33 in any case, most comps are backwards compatible to that.
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Offline Fury

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Re: Re: 486 hard drive into new computer
Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 11:13:23 pm
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Originally posted by Annorax
If the OS on the old computer was DOS 6.22/Win 3.1 or Win95, there's a good chance the hard drive could be FAT16. Windows XP doesn't support this ancient file system.


Windows XP DOES support FAT16. Use google if you don't believe me.
 

Offline Stealth

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Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 11:16:47 pm
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Originally posted by FireCrack
Ok, the reason i wnat to dothis is that the drive has the whole commander keen series on it is well as a ton of other games wich are awesome.


dude well if it's the commander keen series you want, send me a PM
 

Offline MatthewPapa

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Reply #19 on: June 14, 2005, 06:57:46 am
The hard drive is probably SCSI. Are you sure you have it hooked up allright and the SCSI card configured correctly?
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