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Offline SadisticSid

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Reply #20 on: June 14, 2005, 10:17:49 am
If it's a consumer system then it's unlikely to be SCSI. If it is IDE, then the best thing to do is to check the BIOS to see if it will recognise the drive before you boot into Windows. If it doesn't, then check to see if the drive is set up for master/slave, if appropriate, using the jumpers on the back. If that still doesn't work, try entering the drive parameters manually in the BIOS.
 

Offline Kosh

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Reply #21 on: June 15, 2005, 12:22:22 am
You're better off just getting Commander Keen from the internet. There are lots of old warez sites for games like this. Nice and unsupported. :D
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Offline wojta

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Reply #22 on: June 15, 2005, 04:17:37 am
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If the OS on the old computer was DOS 6.22/Win 3.1 or Win95, there's a good chance the hard drive could be FAT16. Windows XP doesn't support this ancient file system.

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Ok, there should not be any problem. You can use it. Every MS operating system supports FAT16 :mad2:  (disks up to 2GB) even FAT12 (for floppy disks). If not you won't be able to use floppy disks and most of flash disks.

Have you looked into Disk Manager (or how is it called in English version)? You may have disk installed but XP forgot to assign a drive letter to it.
 

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Reply #23 on: June 15, 2005, 04:38:28 am
I still think the best suggestion was to check in the BIOS if the drive is present. You're wasting your time doing anything in windows until you've done that.

Once you've done that I'd try Wojta's suggestion. Right click on my computer and choose manage >> Disk Management. Even if the drive is corrupted or isof a format that Windows doesn't understand it should show up there.
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Offline WMCoolmon

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Reply #24 on: June 15, 2005, 07:18:12 pm
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The reason your not being able to access the drive is that it prob inst being recognized by your BIOS. As Nix said you're probrably going to have to enter the drive info by hand since these old drives are not plug and play.
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #25 on: June 16, 2005, 01:07:25 am
Umm ok, entering the dirve info by hand didnt work at all.

Any tips?
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #26 on: June 16, 2005, 03:21:53 am
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it'll prolly be ata33 in any case



:wtf: on a 486 machine?
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Offline wojta

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Reply #27 on: June 16, 2005, 11:13:16 am
I'll bet that it's wrong master/slave settings or bad cable. You said that BIOS had recognized it once before? Some disks have many settings. It's a difference for example between master single and master.
If you are using secondary IDE check also it's functionality. I have one MB where secondary IDE doesn't work.
 

Offline FireCrack

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Reply #28 on: June 16, 2005, 03:03:16 pm
Ok, i'm on the primaary slave IDE, my computer recognised i t when i had it set to master but not slave. I'm sure my cable is good, it was on the same one when it worked. Umm, yeah. I'l check again, later.
The hard driveis a 'Seagate ST3120A'
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Reply #29 on: June 16, 2005, 03:09:26 pm
Why don't you just copy all the data onto a USB flash drive and then put it on your main computer? :p
 

Offline FireCrack

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Reply #30 on: June 16, 2005, 03:29:52 pm
Becasue USB ports were realy common back in the 1980s...
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #31 on: June 16, 2005, 11:41:25 pm
The 486 came out in the very early 90's.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Admiral LSD

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Reply #32 on: June 18, 2005, 05:02:10 pm
...and USB didn't come out until the late '90s

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Just one question, why are you deliberatly trying to slow down your computer? :confused:


It would depend on how he's hooking it up. If it's on it's own controller with it's own cable then it certainly won't do any harm. Even if it's on the same cable as one of his main drives it still shouldn't cause any trouble as modern IDE controllers are apparently able to handle sifferent device speeds on the same cable.

To reiterate what others have said: Make sure the jumpers are set correctly (Master or Slave only, ignore the cable select setting) and the BIOS is set to auto-detect the drive type in that position (primary master, primary slave etc).
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #33 on: June 18, 2005, 05:28:38 pm
I just cant do this, it aint working nomatter what i do. I'm gonna pop it back in the 486 and just floppy everything over. Wich will be annoying, because it's a 800 meg drive (quite big for it's day)
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Reply #34 on: June 18, 2005, 06:37:22 pm
Could you whip your CD or DVD burner out of your main machine, stick it in the old one, burn a disc and then move it back? That'd be worth a try I think... :)
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #35 on: June 19, 2005, 02:03:58 am
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Could you whip your CD or DVD burner out of your main machine, stick it in the old one, burn a disc and then move it back? That'd be worth a try I think... :)



It's not quite that simple. You have to slow down your CD or DVD burner to make it compatible with the controller in this case. There is a certain way to do it, but I'm not sure how.



And all of this for Commander Keen....... :rolleyes:
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline WMCoolmon

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Reply #36 on: June 19, 2005, 02:28:31 am
Why not transfer it via parallel port, or an old LAN adapter (probably can be found in a local thrift shop or novelty computer store, as a paperweight)?

Oh, and you can fit Commander Keen on 3-4 floppies really easily, IIRC. Just copy the main directories over.
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Reply #37 on: June 19, 2005, 03:12:09 am
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And all of this for Commander Keen....... :rolleyes:


Commander Keen is the only half-decent game iD ever made.
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Reply #38 on: June 19, 2005, 03:14:53 am
What about doom II and wolfenstein 3d?  Those are classics.:nod:
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Offline Taristin

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Reply #39 on: June 19, 2005, 07:52:56 am
Classic != good. :p
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