[Unknown Target]

I'd worry less about the finances of the campaign and more about making it un-cliche, because this campaign doesn't have a lot of original items in it, to be quite honest.

[Charismatic]

Bah, USSR was different. They were commies. My idea is not commies. Everybody and everything is not =.

Bah, i need to study up on the USSR some more again..

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Charismatic
Bah, USSR was different. They were commies. My idea is not commies. Everybody and everything is not =.

Bah, i need to study up on the USSR some more again..

Oh cold war, how I do love thee.

Do you even know what communism is? Or are "commies" just evil, generic bad guys who are obviously inferior to you, and incapable of coming up with anything as perfect and world altering as you?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Black Wolf



Do you even know what communism is? Or are "commies" just evil, generic bad guys who are obviously inferior to you, and incapable of coming up with anything as perfect and world altering as you?

I would guess that depends on whether he was brought up in the US school system or not.

[Unknown Target]

Or myabe he's making a joke/being sarcastic?

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Or myabe he's making a joke/being sarcastic?

Honestly, I don't think so.

[AlphaOne]

Well the idea is this. While i do aknoledge the limired abilities that i have for writing they are not nearly as bad as you think bout mi spelling and knoledge of english is.

as for the campaign I must admit that although there are many already used ideas so far there are many ups and downs and twists to ensure that this will not be just another "hey the GTVF wins over the shivans" campaign story.

I will try to rewrite some of the ambigous details of the story but keep in mind this is only a story which hapens to represent a diferent point of view at least partialy from what is cannon.

You guis can take and rewrite and use whatever you think is good or usefull from this. While most of the story will prove to be dull the last part of it depicts horiffic battles with masive losses on both sides. And the eventual defeat of most of those that will be engaged in the titanic battle. Which will leave an open plot for people to write . In short "there are no winners in war of this scale and with stakes this high, there are only loosers because none will be able to defend against the tides of darkness that have fallen upon our galaxie...." Adm. Vladimir Petrov GTVF year 2420.

[Ghostavo]

*me senses a disturbance in the force, which is ironic because me also senses a BoES situation*

[RED DIAMOND]

Originally posted by AlphaOne
Well the idea is this. While i do aknoledge the limired abilities that i have for writing they are not nearly as bad as you think bout mi spelling and knoledge of english is.

as for the campaign I must admit that although there are many already used ideas so far there are many ups and downs and twists to ensure that this will not be just another "hey the GTVF wins over the shivans" campaign story.

I will try to rewrite some of the ambigous details of the story but keep in mind this is only a story which hapens to represent a diferent point of view at least partialy from what is cannon.

You guis can take and rewrite and use whatever you think is good or usefull from this. While most of the story will prove to be dull the last part of it depicts horiffic battles with masive losses on both sides. And the eventual defeat of most of those that will be engaged in the titanic battle. Which will leave an open plot for people to write . In short "there are no winners in war of this scale and with stakes this high, there are only loosers because none will be able to defend against the tides of darkness that have fallen upon our galaxie...." Adm. Vladimir Petrov GTVF year 2420.

I'm cheering for ya Alpha One!:yes:

[AlphaOne]

Well here you go of another piece of the story which i've been tring to rewrite to make it shorter and more concise!

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                       "Ahes to ahes and dust to dust...."

As the GTVF 5-th fleet entered the sistem they were received with a grand fireworks show..as well as a big celebration!

As trans ports started to depart the destroyers and corvettes with the refugies 4 wings of fighters took escort positions around them.

Beta1:"This is beta1 command we have started our escort of the transports"
Command:"Roger that! You shouldnt have eny problems..this is a secure sistem"
Beta2:"bah this is just for show....we are 5 kilcks away form the stations and they want us to escort them..."
Beta1:"...show or no show we have a job to do so zip it.."

As most of the 5-th fleet left the sistem GFD Independence and the GFFr. Intrepid staid behind for resuply and some r&r. Theyr crews have been fighting non-stop for the last 2 months against the NTVA.

Later that day.

As Adm. Petrov exited the airlock 4 marines were waiting for him to escort him to his room.Also just outside the airlock there was a women and a child waiting for him.
As soon as the child saw the admiral exiting the airlock he sprinted towards him.
Adm.P:"...woo...easy there champ..."
The admiral picked up his son and headed for his wife.
"He missed you so much.." said the his wife.
"You were suposed to arive 2 weeks ago what happened?"
Adm.P:"well that was the plan but this war....it's .....it's without reason....you should know better.."

As they headed for theyr room escorted by the 4 marines the young boy asks his father:
Peter:" Dad...well...I wanted to ask you something....but..."
Mom:"Well go on just as we talked...."
Petrov:"What have you 2 been skeeming...about while I was gone..??"
Mom:"Well he has been a good boy...and he has gotten high marks on his last test's..."
Peter:"Well I wanted to ask you if you could take me to see the bridge of your ship. I saw it and its huge and so beutiful I wanted to see where you work.."
Petrov:"Work...now heres a new interpretetion of what I do...! Besides you know children arent alowed on warships. That's not a good place for a child to be especialy the bridge!"
Peter:"Please dad I did exactly what you told me and i've been a good boy mom' can vouch for me"
Seeing he wasnt about to win this one he made use of his diplomatic skills:
Petrov:"Well why dont we wait till tomorow and we shal talk again tomorow"
This seemed to please the boy as he started running towards a couple of boys that were waiting across the coridor.

Later that day.

All alarms start to go off around the station.

"All hands to battle staions!All hands to battle stations! This is not a drill repeat this is not a drill"

1 minute later outside the Admirals apartment.

Petrov:"Yes...I understand...i'l be out in one minute"

"Peter what is wrong said his wife whats all this about.."
Petrov:"Listen to me I want you to pack up a suitcase and prepare to leave this place we are under atack. I have to go..."
Peter:"Dad you are leaving again..you said you will take me to see the ship.....you promissed...!"
Petrov:"I know but something has come up..and I have to go for now..I promise I'l come back..and then we will visit the ship okay..? I'n the mean time I want you to take care of your mother..understand?"
Peter:"Yes sir " said the young boy and speeded of to his room to take somthing...!
After he said goodbye to his wife the admiral speeded towards the airlock where a armoured transport was waiting fo him to take him to his ship.

On board his ship the admiral recieves an update on the situation.

An entire NTVA fleet was haded theyr way E.T.A. 15 minutes.

Command:"Admiral we have bad news the NTVA 2-nd fleet is headed your way. but they will not arive all at once they will arive in 3 waves because we mannaged to delay them."
Petrov:"What about reinforcement...my entire fleet has left the sistem some 16 hours ago to engage the NTVA in the N-002 and Pilgrim sistems."
Command:"We know we sent orders for them to head back but....! The only ship close enough to you is a Nebula class destroyer and its escort comanded by Cap.Ramses!  E.T.A.  1 hour."
Petrov:"Roger that..." and the admiral turned white and sat down in his command chair...!
Command:"Peter...I sugest you get your famaly out of that science station....this is gooing to be bad..! You must protect the milatary instalation in that sistem at all cost."
Petrov:"Roger that"

This is a piece of it I will post the rest as well as a folow up tomorow..because for now i'm just to tired.

[Airborne]

No offense, but how are you going to put all that dramatic storytelling in the game? The only way you can have that large exchange of conversation between the admiral and his son is through a few cutscenes and I doubt you know how to make cutscenes... It seems more like you're trying to make a major motion picture than a campaign we can play.

[brozozo]

Oh, Crap.

AlphaOne, you need to stop. I'm all for creating fan fiction and new campaigns/missions, but you just don't have the right idea.

In fact, you have nothing but a terrible cliche of a campaign.

Learn how to type and spell too.

[TopAce]

The more he writes the better his writing skills will become. Respect this, let him practise. As for spelling, he must read more.
If I hadn't read any novels in English, I would still spell 'cute' as 'quede'.

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by d3r3k
Oh, Crap.

AlphaOne, you need to stop. I'm all for creating fan fiction and new campaigns/missions, but you just don't have the right idea.

In fact, you have nothing but a terrible cliche of a campaign.

Learn how to type and spell too.

You, sir, win the least helpful post award.

Guys, seriously--if AlphaOne's writing and story irritates you so badly, either ignore it or do something completely out of the ordinary--try to help him!

No offense, but how are you going to put all that dramatic storytelling in the game? The only way you can have that large exchange of conversation between the admiral and his son is through a few cutscenes and I doubt you know how to make cutscenes... It seems more like you're trying to make a major motion picture than a campaign we can play.

As he stated earlier in the thread, this will not actually be made into an actual campaign. Rather, he is simply exposing the plot for us for enjoyment. If it were going to be developed, he could include the story with the Admiral's son as part of a monologue or log entry in a Command Brief.

As for the post, AlphaOne: while you do need some grammar/spelling work (it's understandable, don't take it offensively), I like the premise. While there are some cliches and overused ideas, that doesn't necessarily mean it sucks; just use those cliches in a new and unexpected way.

Good luck. I'll be waiting for the rest.

[AlphaOne]

Thanx Nuclear1...! I must admit thgat although Nuclear1 has criticised me for other post in the past I have yet to see him lash out at someone for posting his ideea or whatever unless it's about FS-X !

As for the rest who think that I should stop dooing this and take writing lessons and spelling lessons....well let me just say..that you mai be right but since you are so eager to stop me that is a good enough reason for me to continue regardless of the disadvantages that I or mi campaign story mai have!

As for the last part of it (Nuclear1) I must disapoint you since I will be able to post it at best tomorow morning!

[Airborne]

I never said I didn't think alphaone should make a campaign, and I understand he can put that bit between the admiral and his family in the monologue portions of the campaign, but it just seems strange making the monologues entirely composed of that. People want to see him set up the story first not jump straight into the admiral's perspective. We want to know what events led up to the current situation of the game and how "you"(the player) ended up there. Then perhaps we can have some of those side story segments and I welcome the idea.

[Blaise Russel]

Originally posted by AlphaOne
Adm.Vladimir Alexander
Status: married
Age:42
Height: 1.89 m
Weight: 90 kg

[Mary-Sue? I don't know.]

Whatever happened to merely competent officers, pilots and politicians? Does everybody have to be played by Samuel L. Jackson?

[Taristin]

Originally posted by d3r3k
Oh, Crap.

AlphaOne, you need to stop. I'm all for creating fan fiction and new campaigns/missions, but you just don't have the right idea.

In fact, you have nothing but a terrible cliche of a campaign.

Learn how to type and spell too.

And you, sir, should learn some tact.

Have nothing helpful to say? Say nothing.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel


Whatever happened to merely competent officers, pilots and politicians? Does everybody have to be played by Samuel L. Jackson?

Why do I think you are thinking of Mace Wiindu's character here?

[TrashMan]

Well, trying to find loginc in an unrealistic space shooter is ...funny.

Sure, FS2 didn't have Newtonian physics, but most things could have been explained and achived with normal physics.
But the charachters and storyline? Wre they belivable?
Really hard to tell - Bosch is a great charachter, but from a belivable standpoint, would anyone belive idiots like those in command would ever be in charge in the real world?..

No..wait a sec... nevermind that last question..

As for the economy bit - who cares.
In ST there is no ecomony so to speak, yet I see no one complaining.

where does the money for ships come? Well, military allways spends a lot - just look at the US