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Offline Starman01

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Hello,

is there a possibility to create a bright white radar-dot maybe due to a table-change, or are the colours of the different fractions (friendly, unknown, neutral and enemy) hardcoded ? It must be also very good visible when it is more than 30.000 klicks out.

I tried using invisble fake-models with the navbouy-flag, that creates grey dots, but my problem is that I have to create non-targetable blibs (so that they are flickering on the radar), and I also have to place them far away from the player for the better illusion of the situation. But when you place them far away, the dots will become very small, and since I can't even target them they are nearly invisible before some background nebulae.

If the colours are hardcoded, that would really suck. Because I would have to make another SCP-Request then, and I'm one step closer being banned from that forum over there after all my requests :lol:
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Offline pyro-manic

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They're currently

Green: Friendly
Red: Hostile
Grey: Non-combat (cargo, buoys, jump nodes)
Orange: Neutral
Purple: Unknown

but I don't know if they can be changed.

I think white shows up for something - it might be for new arrivals - a white dot shows up before it turns to the relevant colour. You could always try gicing them Unknown IFF status, as purple will stand out a lot more than grey does.
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Offline TopAce

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Is there Orange, too? I though Neutral and Hostile had the same colour. :wtf:
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Offline Starman01

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That's what I currently do. But using the blue hud-variant (and a blue/purble radar)  and the combining backgrounds render them nearly invisible. As mentioned, I have placed them far away which reduces the size already to 50% (code-wise) and I made them non-targetable too.

Now they are only good visible, when they are in black space within the radar and not exactly one a line from the radar-ani (what happens quite often suprisingly).

(edit) I also can't remember an orange, but I also have problems seeing colours correctly, so I'm always very careful arguing about these things :) But I also thought that at least both neutral and unknown have blue-ish tones.
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Offline TopAce

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Maybe it's technically orange(in RGB scale), but visually red. I don't see a difference anyway.
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Offline redsniper

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Neutral IFF is used in FRED for HoL ships so it shows up red ingame. Unknown is a kind of pink/magenta color. Green, gray, yellow (bombs), and blue (for new arrivals) are the only other colors I've seen on my radar.
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Offline TopAce

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I haven't seen yellow either.
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Offline Lynx

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That's got to do with the way the HUD looks. Since pretty much all of the gauges are transparent, so if the radar dot's color's dark you can barely distinguish it from the background(especially with blue as HUD color, since due to the transparency you can barely see anything of the HUD, you'll have to use either bright green or skyblue to get the best results -brown workss too but looks like ****-since with most other colors the HUD's barely readable). Making the HUD gauges nontransparent would help alot there, but that's a code change.
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Offline Flaser

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Yellow is tagged.
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Flaser
Yellow is tagged.


There you go.
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Offline redsniper

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:o That's right, but there are also some dimmer yellow dots for bombs. At least I think there are...
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Offline FireCrack

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Yeah, there are dim yellow dots for notable warheads, i think mabye only enemy warheads.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Goober5000

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I've been working on this for a while.  I'll get back to it once the code freeze is up.

 

Offline Setekh

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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by redsniper
:o That's right, but there are also some dimmer yellow dots for bombs. At least I think there are...


Not in FreeSpace. In X-wing Alliance, warheads are dim yellow.
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Offline karajorma

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:wtf: What the hell are you on about TopAce? Play a game with a lot of enemy bombers and you'll see tonnes of yellow dots.
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Offline TopAce

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I have NEVER seen warheads indicated as yellow. :wtf:
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Offline karajorma

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The feature has been there since retail. I thought you were supposed to be the observant one :p

Not one but two yellow dots!

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Offline DaBrain

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OT: What is this cool glowing yellow thing left to the damage gauge?
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Offline karajorma

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I think I took the pic just as one of the bombs went off.
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