Originally posted by Fear
hmm, i need to understand something.
in the universe of fs an army is made of some normal class ships and 1-2 uber ships right?(like the gtva had that colossuss). so basiclly my point is that if the shivans have 80 sath, is it possible they have an uber ship? far more bigger than any other ships?
if thats true that acctually delete the theory about the shivans scared to attack gtva,because of them thinking gtva have 90k colossuss.(why should they be afriad if they got far more powerful ships 
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It's probably quite likely FS3 would have seen far bigger ships for the Shivans than even the Sathanas, simply for the purposes of eye candy
. Although there's no indication that the Shivans follow the same fleet strategy as the GTVA does; also the Colossus is somewhat of an exception to the rule, as the regular GTVA fleet structure appears to be each fleet headed by at least one destroyer (as seen in FS1 and the pre-Colossus parts of FS2).
Originally posted by Fear
i mean maybe the shivans themself were just toying with us, no reason for hunting(maybe for the sport). some kind of a predators, they came here for the fireworks. is it possible the shivans send to every galaxy a scout after an amount of time(the lucifer) just to explore and find spices that are well-worth to attack? and maybe this is the reason why they didnt wipe out the humantiy in its early stages, because it wasnt ready for struggling\fighting the shivans.
I think one of the V staff did say on the FS Mailing List that the Shivans were 'drawn to conflict'; although that doesn't indicate they do it for any reason beyond a base instinct, and doesn't mean they don't have other motives. (or it could have been a red herring)
Originally posted by Fear
another thing is.... after 8k years u r telling me that the crappy lucifer is still one of their capital ships?, u r telling me that the shivans didnt evovle one bit?
There's no actual proof the Lucifer was around during the Ancients war; all the evidence there is indicates the Shivans had multiple destroyers which were shielded, and that a ship with weapons similar to the Lucifer destroyed Altair.
There's also no indication that the Lucifer is considered a 'top of the line' ship by the Shivans, nor did they have any reason to stop using it - it was only destroyed by a fluke discovery of the Ancients data, after all.
