[Eishtmo]

Originally posted by Raa
What wasn't, however, were Anubises, and the Vasudan Light Laser.

They're swamers!  Sure, one Anubis is barely worth bothering with, but a dozen of the bastards all looking to cut you and your shieldless fighter to pieces is something to be damn scared of.

[Nuke]

like those little spawn bots in descent 2, can take em down in 1 shot but you run into 20 of them and your fuxored.

[Charismatic]

Good ol' desent 2..

Well Even IF Vasudan craft in FS1 out did Terran craft, we had Alpha 1, who could down a whole fleet with one wing of bombers and one wing of fighters (MP Map: Sirus Blockade), and with the same stuff kill a Sathanis (MP Map: ?Iron Gate?). We feared their caps, they feared our good ol' alpha 1!

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Charismatic

Well Even IF Vasudan craft in FS1 out did Terran craft, we had Alpha 1,
Blah Blah Blah

That's the lamest excuse to claim superiority in a game.

[Charismatic]

Raa's SIGGY
Obedience from below.
Obligation from above.
Working together for the common good.
We are
The Race.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Raa

That's the lamest excuse to claim superiority in a game.

Having the player character is actually the best reason.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by ngtm1r


Having the player character is actually the best reason.

Not really... That's basically like throwing out anything the opposing races ever did/made just because the game designers set the player against them.

By that logic, the Covenant, in Halo, isn't the fearsome, overpowering force they are, because the terrans have one soldier to fight against the millions of the covenant. That'd make them weaker than the Humans (Who lost countless homes and planets to their overpowering fleet.

Originally posted by Charismatic

What are you trying to prove with that? It has absolutely nothing to do with the argument...

[NGTM-1R]

Well, the player character is by definition superior to most if not all other folks in the game.

[Taristin]

Still a cop out. If you're going to evaluate  the forces of a game, you should ignore that there even is a player. He's only there to make it a game. (Big duh moment there for me) Because it seems players don't like games where they're on par with their teamates, and are forced to watch themselves get slaughterred time after time.

[Ghostavo]

So how do we explain a 14 year war which seemed to be in a stalemate?

[Taristin]

The forces were even.

Terrans had better weapons, Vasudans had better ships. Both species used what they had to the best of their abilities, and ended up tieing.

[Fergus]

(Wonders what exactly the old T vs V debate has to do with Vasudan design philosophy...and here was me thinking wouldn't mention the war)

[Taristin]

It shouldn't, but it always does.

WMC Started it!

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
So how do we explain a 14 year war which seemed to be in a stalemate?

Bear in mind that it wasn't the player's entry into the war that suddenly caused the end; that was for the Shivans to do. Who would have known that the 14th (or 15th) year of the war would have been any different? The first fourteen years resulted in a stalemate, and that could have very well continued had the Shivans not intervened.

[Ghostavo]

That's my point, both sides were equal.

[Nuclear1]

Alright. Just didn't seem to get that across to myself when I was browsing through the posts.

[Boomer]

Next thing you know we'll talk about Shivan cuisine...

I think that the Vasudan design is actually quite strange.  Normally, a species that evolved in as arid and unforgiving an environment as a desert world, would design to get the most out of least amount of something.  However, the Vasudans seem to operate quite contrary to this and seem to approach shipbuilding with a more artistic approach.  There are 2 explanations IMO for this:

The Vasudans put too much value on collecting headz.

or

The Vasudans natural technological evolution was interfered with by an outside influence.  *Cough*Ancients*Cough*

[mumble]Damn interfering aliens, why can't they leave people alone?!:mad:[\mumble]

[Taristin]

Err... It could be because the Vasudan race is a race of philosophers and artists, as stated by the tech description...

[Boomer]

I don't remember it saying anything about artists....

[edit] Yup, there it is.

*bows before Raa*

[Taristin]

We are The Race, after all... >.>