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Offline Hippo

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bob; use the do-not-cut tool a bit, and you'll get that in less pieces...
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Offline Bobboau

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I am aware of that tool, I used it, try and get it in fewer peices (without it being a total chaotic mess)
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]Bob I advise that you build that thing yourself even if it is in black and white, it'll give you a feeling for which bits work better seperate.

I tried to connect too much on the first run and it ended up making parts of the build particularly (needlessly) tricky.

As for the glue: I used a solvent based glue which was a cheaper version of stuff that goes by the brand name 'Uhu' over here. It wasn't great but it was much better than one of those glue sticks (prit-stick and the like). Only downside is the amount of ventilation you need to stop losing brain cells with the solvent stuff.
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Offline Hippo

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Elmers is working a-ok for me... I've got the nose assembled (the one piece deal, plus the cancerous blob on the side), the entire right side of the main body(looking down with the nose at the top), the back (minus the engines), and the top is cut and folded, but needs attatching...



[q]Bob I advise that you build that thing yourself even if it is in black and white, it'll give you a feeling for which bits work better seperate.[/q]


Yeah, your model may look pretty simple there, but every one of those tabs is a nightmare... Look at the bottom center, where it has all those dotted lines. Those will NOT be easy to attatch to that mass of tabs at the bottom...


I'll put up some pictures of that i've got sometime late tonight once i find my camera...
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Offline Martinus

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Elmers is working a-ok for me... I've got the nose assembled (the one piece deal, plus the cancerous blob on the side), the entire right side of the main body(looking down with the nose at the top), the back (minus the engines), and the top is cut and folded, but needs attatching...



[q]Bob I advise that you build that thing yourself even if it is in black and white, it'll give you a feeling for which bits work better seperate.[/q]


Yeah, your model may look pretty simple there, but every one of those tabs is a nightmare... Look at the bottom center, where it has all those dotted lines. Those will NOT be easy to attatch to that mass of tabs at the bottom...


I'll put up some pictures of that i've got sometime late tonight once i find my camera...

[color=66ff00]If you're going to build the Orion build the bottom and sides first, attach the top after you connect the nose to the main hull.
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Offline Hippo

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ok, i'll start the last side and bottom then... I have to admit though, using regular computer paper for page 6 was a bad idea with elmers :ick: it got all soggy :p ...
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Offline Martinus

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ok, i'll start the last side and bottom then... I have to admit though, using regular computer paper for page 6 was a bad idea with elmers :ick: it got all soggy :p ...

[color=66ff00]Don't forget to give me your appraisal of the layout, tell me what you think needs changed to make the model easier to build. :nod:

Are you having much difficulty identifying which parts go where?
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Offline Nico

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mmh, about the tabs and the seams... you think WHITE tabs will make non viosible seams? Try black, man.
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Offline Hippo

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its actually pretty strait forward where it all goes, though i have modelview open to it so i can figure out what piece i should do next...

One thing that would be nice to change, would be that a lot of the pieces (but not the one i started with ironically (the side and fighterbay)) have really complicated methods of tabbing and connections... That's also probably the hardest part to change too...

The linked pieces are working well, minus the piece at the top left here, which was just plain annoying to get seated right...

*looks at remaining parts and pdf (and future complications?)*

  • I've got the piece on the left of page 3 left, but its pretty self explanatory where it goes...
  • Al but 2 of page six left to do (i got the one on the nose and beside the fighterbay), but the ones that aren't the engies are going to be tricky to get... What if you put a little letter beside each one on the page, and then in the tabs of the area one must cut out in the model (ex: center of p1), put the corrisponding letter? I'm looking at things like the top left of p6 and can't remember were it goes (though i know i've seen it before)...
  • Maybe I just haven't found it yet, but there's a notch in the nose piece where a random triangular prism is supposed to go in the modelview version, and i can't seem to find it yet... (Figure A)
  • Some of the textures are messed up (not just the uv's)... See attatcment for examples(Figure B1 and B2)... I outlined the same square on the map, and drew a line from the vertex of the triangle thing strait back... Notice the box's difference in positions?
  • I know that the top of page 2 is the bottom of the model, but (and i'll admit i haven't looked in MV for them) i haven't found a place for the other two parts...


And that's about all for now... I'll keep you updated on anything that could be better.


Oh, and i wrote:

[q]Const. July 2005 - Hippo
Plans Summer 2005 - Maeglamor[/q]

On the inside of the engine pods along with the HLP logo printed out and glued inside :p ...

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Offline Bobboau

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who ever said I wasn't building them, if I wasn't I wouldn't have made a second version that corected some hard to assemble parts.
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Offline Martinus

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who ever said I wasn't building them, if I wasn't I wouldn't have made a second version that corected some hard to assemble parts.

[color=66ff00]Ah, it was me Bob. I just meant it as a suggestion and assumed you were still without ink.

Post some pics if you have the capacity. :nod:

I'll try to compile a few screenshots to help you out Hippo, as for the textures; I hadn't noticed. :nervous: :)
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]I took a quick look at the PDF and realised that it's removed the 'cut' label from the fighterbay entrance. It's there because the texture usually applied to that polygon is transparent and it's easier just to mark it than change the mesh.

The fighterbay internals is the first part on the bottom of page 6, the prism that you pointed out in your diagram is at the bottom of page 6 in the middle. The tab you pointed out seems to be some kind of mesh muckup again, when it's folded into position and glued it doesn't really get in the way.

The texture mess-ups seem to be a problem with whatever way pepakura handles the mesh and its UV's. I noticed this on a much more obvious level when I used a fenris mesh. Textures were positioned incorrectly. I think the best fix is to get the layout and edit it in photoshop/PSP etc. Trying to rebuild the mesh and UV's seems like far too much hassle.
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Offline Hippo

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Hm... guess i have to put the fighterbay interior in then... That could be difficult... *dons scissors and glue*


Dons really isn't the right word, is it ;) :D
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Dons really isn't the right word, is it ;) :D
No. :lol:

 
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I believe a Deimos is too hard to do... rounded surfaces and Origamy. I don't know.
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Offline Hippo

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the orion has rounded parts... Well... One...
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Rounded parts arent too hard.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Hippo

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A fair amount are a bit blurry, but you get the picture... (no pun intended ;) )...

I also have managed to glue my fingers to it several times, once without noticing, and proceeding to glue another finger to it before trying to remove the first :p ...






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