[Kosh]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4114824.stm



Bush is backing Vietnam. Doesn't anyone find this just a little hypocritical? I mean the US invaded a country not too long ago because it was run by a bad regime and then goes on and on about freedom and democracy, but he then turns around and helps to support a communist state.

[Mefustae]

See, you have to keep in mind when criticising Bush that, well, he's not the one who's doing this. Remember that he is simply a Puppet for his Adminitration (a widely believed fact i'll have you know), Bush is just a front man, the face of the Group behind the scenes, he has pretty much NO say as to what goes on and what he supports...to the REAL powers that be in the US, all he is, is a Hand-shake and a Smile, that's all...

[Sandwich]

Oh, so now it's "kill him when he does, kill him when he doesn't", eh? Nice.

Goodbye. *leaves thread*

[achtung]

Vietnam is wanting to join the WTO so the only reason we're being so nice is something called "cheap labor".

[WMCoolmon]

Kosh: Not at all. Iraq didn't like the US, the US didn't like it. Vietnam is speaking to the US.

What Bush is doing is sending a message to the rest of the world. Maybe not a friendly one, but anyone who believes the US would invade a country just because it doesn't like the government needs to do a lot more reading. Or change their primary news source from Fox.

Originally posted by Mefustae
See, you have to keep in mind when criticising Bush that, well, he's not the one who's doing this. Remember that he is simply a Puppet for his Adminitration (a widely believed fact i'll have you know), Bush is just a front man, the face of the Group behind the scenes, he has pretty much NO say as to what goes on and what he supports...to the REAL powers that be in the US, all he is, is a Hand-shake and a Smile, that's all...

I've heard this touted often, but I've never seen any proof. Usually it's based on the assumption that Bush is stupid. But I'm a little incredulous that someone could really be that dumb. I think it's more likely that someone would be smart enough to appear that dumb.

[redmenace]

as far as I can remember, Vietnam, recently, hasn't really done anything bad.

[Genryu]

Huh huh.
Well, if you mean 'Vietnam, recently, hasn't really done anything bad' to the America, well, here, you're right. But then, so did Irak. Except if you count the money lost by bombing the countryweekly.

[Nico]

Power to horses!
Hem, sorry, couldn't resist.

[TopAce]

Weird man. That's all I can add.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
What Bush is doing is sending a message to the rest of the world. Maybe not a friendly one, but anyone who believes the US would invade a country just because it doesn't like the government needs to do a lot more reading. Or change their primary news source from Fox.
 

Pretty god-dammed mixed message in the same week Rice promised to support democracy at the expense of stability.  Or something.

[DeepSpace9er]

We do we even talk about this **** anymore? It never goes anywhere and 9 times out of 10 nothing ever comes from it, nobody ever learns anything constructive, and it goes downhill from post 1. So just do yourselves a favor and kill this thread.

[Unknown Target]

Vietnam is a different country now. Yes, it's still communist, but it's a rising economic star and George Bush and co. want in on it. Plus, they want to join the WTO, from what I've read in this thread, so it's all economic based.
Just because they were enemies in the past doesn't mean they have to be enemies in the future (look at Britian and America).

[aldo_14]

[q]n addition to trade ties, the US also sees Vietnam as strategically important in a region where China's influence is increasingly strong, says BBC state department correspondent Jonathan Beale.

Mr Khai is due to hold talks with US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to discuss military ties.

Mr Khai has told The Washington Post that the two will announce that Vietnam is to join the Pentagon's International Military Education and Training [Imet] programme. [/q]

*ding*

[MatthewPapa]

Originally posted by DeepSpace9er
We do we even talk about this **** anymore? It never goes anywhere and 9 times out of 10 nothing ever comes from it, nobody ever learns anything constructive, and it goes downhill from post 1. So just do yourselves a favor and kill this thread.

[vyper]

So in essence, all those young men who died in the Vietnam war, and those who lost limbs and the civvys who got cooked in Napalm.... did so for nothing since now the US can be pally with Vietnam ... hmm...

[MatthewPapa]

Originally posted by vyper
So in essence, all those young men who died in the Vietnam war, and those who lost limbs and the civvys who got cooked in Napalm.... did so for nothing since now the US can be pally with Vietnam ... hmm...

Well in essence the soviet union has been defeated and the spread of communism stopped so the USA's longterm goals were accomplished

[Kosh]

Kosh: Not at all. Iraq didn't like the US, the US didn't like it. Vietnam is speaking to the US.

What Bush is doing is sending a message to the rest of the world. Maybe not a friendly one, but anyone who believes the US would invade a country just because it doesn't like the government needs to do a lot more reading. Or change their primary news source from Fox.

Vietnam doesn't really like the US either, but it doesn't like China even more. The Vietnamese are very afraid of China. China has a history of invading Vietnam that goes wwwaaaayyyyy back.


The REAL reason Bush is doing this is because of one thing: China. Bush wants a friendly nation that shares a border with China.

I've heard this touted often, but I've never seen any proof. Usually it's based on the assumption that Bush is stupid. But I'm a little incredulous that someone could really be that dumb.

Have you taken a look at his business history?

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Kosh

Have you taken a look at his business history?

Given the way the federal government works, a record of failed business would be an excellent primer for leading it.

[JoeLo]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Kosh: Not at all. Iraq didn't like the US, the US didn't like it. Vietnam is speaking to the US.

What Bush is doing is sending a message to the rest of the world. Maybe not a friendly one, but anyone who believes the US would invade a country just because it doesn't like the government needs to do a lot more reading. Or change their primary news source from Fox.



I've heard this touted often, but I've never seen any proof. Usually it's based on the assumption that Bush is stupid. But I'm a little incredulous that someone could really be that dumb. I think it's more likely that someone would be smart enough to appear that dumb.

Actually we were extrelemy freindly to Iraq, until they got those pesky things to protect their oil rights, essentialy raising prices.

What do you mean smart enough to appear that dumb go to http://bushisspecial.ytmnd.com that should be enough proof that hes a moron. Really that should be all the proof you need.
Also Bush's father made a massive donation to Yale the year he was accepted, one of the largest in history, concidience, no.

[Nuclear1]

And, once again, the brilliant and well-trained news analysts at YTMND.com shed their expert advice (which is, of course, not backed by photoshopped or simply randomly-taken pictures at times during speeches or otherwise where anyone would look like an idiot) on the subject of Bush's intelligence.

Bear in mind that you are right in your first paragraph, and I will accept that Bush's father gave a donation (*cough*bribe*cough*) to Yale to let him in, but seriously... if you're basing your political opinion off a website built entirely off of jokes, then you need to do serious reading (though I do give you credit for the first paragraph; makes you not seem like a total idiot).